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02-28-2003, 09:31 PM

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Originally posted by Chewbacca:
I thought you swore off the serious war forum... [img]graemlins/happywave.gif[/img]

Well I know you didn't miss me but some people actually did and asked me to come back.....and sooooo being an agreeable sort of fellow...here I am

I am sorry but I do not find the "Its top secret and you dont know any better" argument for a "a preventive war against Iraq without broad international support" very compelling.

Colin Powell laid out the administrations case. This case seems to have been enough to convince the majority of nations that there is just cause. The number of nations officially blocking a US move is rather sparse....and the key players have rather LARGE financial concerns involved.

U.S. lawmakers and world goverments oppose the war for very specific and detailed reason and have access to "high" levels of data.

US lawmakers...interesting you should mention that...seems to me that only certain people with presidential aspirations are actively working against a US move....Congress CAN stop the president from taking action...it is within their power.

With-out a smoking gun, the push for "a preventive war against Iraq without broad international support" (it's just fun to say! [img]smile.gif[/img] ) is based in speculation and shallow good-vs-evil moralism.

There is no need for a smoking gun. No one has to prove Saddam has anything to give the US a legitimate reason to act....the way the UN resolutions were worded from 1991 on, is that Saddam has to prove he has disarmed...he hasn't done so in the last 12 years. The US can be argued to have every right to just go in today.

If the U.S goverment is holding out data, they do so to their own discredit.

They may also be keeping people alive, do you not care about that issue? Do you know anything about HUMINT? Should they reveal the names and addresses of sources while they are at it to save Saddam some trouble? Inquiring minds want to know, how many people supplyihng info should the president give up to satisfy your thirst for intimate details?

At any rate, thanks for the smile and wave Im trying to keep things light and airy and not heavy and nasty. Hope it is working [img]smile.gif[/img]