View Single Post
Old 02-17-2003, 02:06 PM   #18
Wutang
Manshoon
 

Join Date: February 3, 2002
Location: San Francisco
Posts: 206
Yorick and others - hehe I was merely poking fun when I said I was ashamed that we liberated France in WWII. I was merely having fun just like Andy Rooney said on 60 minutes. and YES they don't owe us for anything.

Davros - Of course France has the freedom to disagree with the US and they certainly disagreed a lot with the US since WWII. I didn't mean to say that they were automatically wrong just for disagreeing but that also doesn't mean that they are always right.

France has become so contrarian to any US policy involving military action that at times it's counterproductive. De Gaulle even withdrew from NATO back in the 1960's.

I still remember France denying the US access to fly over France to bomb Libya back in the 1980's. We had to fly our bombers from England through Gibralter.
Which was just silly. Wasn't France was also waffling during the 1991 Kuwait war as well. I think it's why their forces were deployed as far as possible away from the main theatre of operations in Kuwait.

Having said that, I'm definitely NOT forgiving France (or Germany and Belgium for that matter) in their latest move at not supporting Turkey in NATO by allow defensive weapons to be deployed. That makes NATO meaningless.

I forget the columnist who wrote but he was right saying that NATO after last week should seriously consider re-evaluating their status. NATO couldn't even handle the Kosovo/Bosnia crisis effectively and that German peacekeepers had to request airplanes to ferry them to Afghanistan.

PS - oh yes we do "owe" France for our independence as well. But France today is dramatically different as it was back in 1789 hehe. Where is King Louis XVI? Wasn't he like executed by his own people?

[ 02-17-2003, 02:30 PM: Message edited by: Wutang ]
__________________
Hula dancer lover!
Wutang is offline