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Djinn Raffo · 02-13-2003, 03:31 PM

Debunked!

Ok the audio/video/recon sources.. why do they need to be protected, i am generally curious and would like to know? Yeah these images of Mustafa Bin TerrorG came from the camera of a spyplane. where is the protection there? "Oh no this means that their are planes taking pictures hovering around up there!!!" Everyone already knows that. Someone pointed a whisper 2000 into the desert and picked up a soundbyte... we can't tell anyone that. The cel phone tapping: well anyone can have a scanner and listen to other peoples cel conversations.. a friend of mine has one and does it all the time.. unless the phone itself was literally bugged with a device. In which case that falls under the category of human spy. And that man/womans identity is in danger of being exposed by the small number of people theory..

Of course Night Stalker i understand that intel communities dont want to reveal their sources be they human or technological. And that's great, that goes without saying. They dont have to reveal their sources. But they could reveal the information. ah.. but that would let others know about the sources, their data collection practices, and their processing of information procedures. Only if it was a human involved wouldn't it? If the information is revealed the enemy will know where the leak came from. To me that means it is a human on the other end. The enemy can't do anything about it if the info is coming from satelite reconassaince.. and it if it comes from satelite or spyplane images.. well.. it wouldnt be the first time and i dont know how that reveals anything about data analysis or collection?

How did the west know that Usama Bin Laden was in Afghanistan? It couldn't have been 'common knowledge'. Why in that instance was the information revealed and not in this one. After all both are dealing with Al Queda?

I generally think that their is some inconsitency here with revealing intelligence and it is troubling imo if that is cassus belli.

And you are right Night Stalker. It is a paradox. IMO No human life is worth more than another. But either way if the info is valid and revealed or valid and not revealed.. it leads to war. And alot more people are going to die. If alot more people are going to die then it would sit more comfortably if we knew the truth of the matter.

George Bush said in his state of the union: "The history of the world will be determined by free men." To me that means the history of the world will NOT be decided behind closed doors.

[ 02-13-2003, 03:34 PM: Message edited by: Djinn Raffo ]

02-13-2003, 03:31 PM	#100
Djinn Raffo Ra Join Date: March 11, 2001 Location: Ant Hill Age: 50 Posts: 2,397	Debunked! Ok the audio/video/recon sources.. why do they need to be protected, i am generally curious and would like to know? Yeah these images of Mustafa Bin TerrorG came from the camera of a spyplane. where is the protection there? "Oh no this means that their are planes taking pictures hovering around up there!!!" Everyone already knows that. Someone pointed a whisper 2000 into the desert and picked up a soundbyte... we can't tell anyone that. The cel phone tapping: well anyone can have a scanner and listen to other peoples cel conversations.. a friend of mine has one and does it all the time.. unless the phone itself was literally bugged with a device. In which case that falls under the category of human spy. And that man/womans identity is in danger of being exposed by the small number of people theory.. Of course Night Stalker i understand that intel communities dont want to reveal their sources be they human or technological. And that's great, that goes without saying. They dont have to reveal their sources. But they could reveal the information. ah.. but that would let others know about the sources, their data collection practices, and their processing of information procedures. Only if it was a human involved wouldn't it? If the information is revealed the enemy will know where the leak came from. To me that means it is a human on the other end. The enemy can't do anything about it if the info is coming from satelite reconassaince.. and it if it comes from satelite or spyplane images.. well.. it wouldnt be the first time and i dont know how that reveals anything about data analysis or collection? How did the west know that Usama Bin Laden was in Afghanistan? It couldn't have been 'common knowledge'. Why in that instance was the information revealed and not in this one. After all both are dealing with Al Queda? I generally think that their is some inconsitency here with revealing intelligence and it is troubling imo if that is cassus belli. And you are right Night Stalker. It is a paradox. IMO No human life is worth more than another. But either way if the info is valid and revealed or valid and not revealed.. it leads to war. And alot more people are going to die. If alot more people are going to die then it would sit more comfortably if we knew the truth of the matter. George Bush said in his state of the union: "The history of the world will be determined by free men." To me that means the history of the world will NOT be decided behind closed doors. [ 02-13-2003, 03:34 PM: Message edited by: Djinn Raffo ]