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Originally posted by Scholarcs:
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Originally posted by MagiK:
Boy you are just full of mis-information today 
Iraq is NOT getting its support from the citizens of Iraq, afraid some big bad country is gonna invade and kill innocent women and children....they live with that fear every day from their own leaders by the way. Iraq is getting support from Germany and France and Iran and Saudi Arabia and Other Islamic Nations with extremist religious factions. (Germany and France...well ok not direct support, but they are buying a certain amount of Oil from Iraq in a supposed effort to get them money for food and they aren't the only nations buying what oil Iraq is being allowed to sell.).
As for the right to bear arms. This right is not GIVEN to us by the government, no government gives you rights. Rights are yours by virtue of being. You can allow governments to take those rights from you however. Our right to bear arms was not recognized to protect us from foreign invaders either. It is there to protect us from dictatorial and tyranical government (read the writings of George Washington and Thomas Jefferson for a better grasp of this concept). Live Free or Die, should be the motto of the US, it is a sad thing that it is not.
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I've just had this discussion on another forum about the americans right to bear arms, and most americans actually believe that a shotgun and a handgun with 40 rounds of ammunition would protect you from a government which had the support of a large trained military with the latest weaponary.
Saddam has support inside Iraq because he is being portrayed as standing up against americans who want Iraqs oil...this will continue for as long as you let it happen, and any american action will serve to increase his support.
btw...Iraqi citizens have been given extra food rations to store in case there is an american invasion.[/QUOTE]LOL. first off, i AM military trained, as are THOUSANDS of people in the U.S. Most of said trained people teach their children how to shoot, via hunting. hell, even those with no military training learn how to shoot by hunting. personaly, i dont own a shotgun, though i own several handguns and RIFLES. i dont know if you know anything about weapons at all, but i personaly own a Remington .308 with a 10 power scope, bi-pod, and heavy barrel. i also own a pre-ban AR15 rifle, with a 4 power scope, bi-pod, and pre-ban 30 round magazines. i am trained in the use of booby-traps and ambush techniques, as well as various other forms of combat. I study Muay-Thai. in other words, there are far more things than just shotguns and handguns.
second of all, most of the countries that would do the U.S. harm, may have manpower, but they dont have technology. America is FAR superior in the warfare technology department than any other country. we have the training and equipment to give our troops said technology and training. China has a million man military, but i will gaurantee that no all of them are trained WELL, and are probably less equiped. not to mention the cost to A) feed a military that size and B) give the ammunition neccisary to sustain a war to that many people.
third and last, i wasn't saying that America could repell an invasion on its private citizens weapons alone, but add that to the military, and nobody would WANT to try. hell, the gangs alone have alot of firepower, as do the organized crime rings that exist in EVERY country. the point is that IF an enemy got into our country to take it over......... rent the move Red Dawn and you will see what im talking about. The millions of Americans vs the one or two million that MAY try to get here ( of course those numbers are not accurate, since they would sustain TERRIBLE loses just trying to get here.)
Im in no way saying that America is superior to anyone, but isn't it ironic that we are the first ones called to help out anyone in trouble? people are B******G about how America "starts" wars. well, if we allow these crazed lunatics with military's ( let the stupid "dubya" jokes and comments commence)to continue getting what they want, they will eventually have the power to NUKE someone. that someone may be America, or it may be Italy, France, Germany, Russia, England, or anyone else that they would like to decimate. point being, why whine and cry over spilt milk? its going to happen, why not back-up those who are going to war? why make them feel as if they will be spit on and hated when they return to their country of origin? this isn't about Big Bully America, its about Big BROTHER America. give it a rest. it was said best by Bilbo Baggins (someone we are all familiar with) "With great power, comes great responisibility". it is easy to point fingers when you are not the one calling the shots, but put yourself in that position, and you may find yourself on the other side of the fence. my rambling has now ended, let the flaming commence. if i offended anyone............ i guess im sorry.