OK...I'm going to respond to SOME of these points. The rest is drivel that is probably garnered from too many late nights on the Internet reading conspiracy theories. Here goes
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Originally posted by lord_gabriel:
...so, back at the keyboard...
...first i'D agree to some of you, Hitler WAS a maniac. No doubt about that. It's a shame racistical tendencies are erupting again even, or especially in my country...
...second, i'm not proud of being german, because i actually think that being part of a certain nation is a matter of coincidence not of own accomplishment...
True. Although in a free society(which Germany IS) you have the right to leave once you come of legal age in that society. If you hate Germany so much you are legally free to leave.
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...Bman, you forgot to mention Panama. It's a thing i had in mind, i'll do some research for more...
What, specifically, about Panama? I'll wait to respond until I see the results of your research.
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...How do you define War ? I would count US American Action in Grenada War since the Government of both Countries got involved...
...the US isn't interested in helping anyone but themselves. They do only react on invasions or similar stuff if US interests are in danger. (e.g. Iraq, Albania...) ...
Correct. Most nations dont go around involving themselves in armed conflicts unless they have a reason. That's what peacekeeping organizations like NATO are for.
And ummmm...just by way of refuting your point...in what way did Bosnia involve the US? Or US interests. That was purely humanitarian.
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...I look in the mirror to see what the world is today, and i'd agree that the USA took a major role in what i see. More than 70% of all the world's inhabitants live in poverty. Altough we are not without guild either, there is some evidence that the US is not interested in making things better. That would be OK, but they pretend to do (e.g. IWF, WTO). The US i a major producer of pollution and we all know how Bush reacted...
Where are you getting your numbers. Some actual backing of your statements with
facts,
figures, heck, even
pie charts would be useful.
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...Bman, your statements prove, that the winners do write history...
...isn't it somehow interesting that the Taliban was initially trained and armed by the USA..?
OK...How many times does this have to be repeated before people get it. THE US DID *NOT* TRAIN AND/OR ARM THE TALIBAN. THE TALIBAN WAS A GROUPS OF RELIGIOUS STUDENTS LIVING IN THE MOUNTAINS THAT CAME TO POWER DURING THE AFGHANI CIVIL WAR!!! This accusation is getting very very old. It is unfounded and untrue, and a tiny bit of RESEARCH would allow you to discover that you are incorrect.
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...did you know that still US-supported Paramilitaric Units are fighting in South America..?
Where? Whom? Perhaps you'd like to provide proof. Instead of, again, making unfounded, inflammatory statements.
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...isn't it funny that Anthrax was developed by the NATO first..?
Ummmmm...having grown up on a farm and studied agriculture most of my formative years, I can tell you, unequivocaly, that Anthrax come FROM SHEEP! It is a naturally occuring disease and has been around for a LONG time.
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...do you remember that the USA nearly blew up the whole planet during Cuba crisis, because they thought USSR would install Nukes on Cuba. True, maybe. But noone cared for the american nukes in Turkey. So are the USSR really to blame when they want to install an equal threat to the US...
"nearly blew up the whole planet "? When? Perhaps my history is a little fuzzy. But I dont recall any nuclear weapons being launched by the US during the Cuban Missle Crisis. The ONLY time the US has ever launched Nuclear weapons on another country was at the end of WWII. We dropped 2. On Japan. That's it. End of list. Please read a history book if you doubt me. I promise...its there.
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...i personally dislike the US-self righteousness (tricky word, i hope the spelling is correct), why are they taking themselves the right to invade anytime anywhere, if there isn't a legal reason, they would make one up - who made them world police..?
...i'm still not sure if the invasion of afghanistan was legal or not. Noone has ever proven to me, that Bin Laden did order/support the attacks of 11th September. But i am really sure the US Government would make up some proves if they need...
Hmm...let me think for just a second. What possible reason could the US have for invading Afghanistan and trying to kill Osama Bin Laden? Does the WORLD TRADE CENTER ring a bell? How about THE PENTAGON? Or maybe, if that doesn't do it for you...how about 6000 INNOCENT CIVILIANS KILLED BY TERRORISTS!!!!!
In addition, there is a video tape, found in Jalalabad(sp) showing bin Laden BRAGGING about the WTC. LAUGHING AND JOKING about the casualty count, and that it was much higher than anticipated. And again, if you dont believe ME, check any of the major news sources. Reuters.com, CNN.com, Foxnews.com, AP.com, Etc!!
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...after the bombing started (pretty cowardly, uh ? :-p ), Taliban leaders announced they would hand Bin Laden over, if the US would show them evidence for his guild - this has not happened, why ?
They said that they would hand bin Laden over to a neutral, muslim state. That's sort of like saying that, if you commited a crime in the US, and the US asked for you to be handed over, and German said sure, we'll give him up to Holland. Do you see the absolute LACK of cooperation that was. The Taliban had absolutely no intention of giving up bin Laden. Never did. All they were trying to do was delay.
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...besides, maybe be you should consider that all the information you get from media is controlled by someone. You can, should, never trust the information you get immidiately. Try to see other opinions. Don't think they are all liars, because you would prefer believing your own opinion. If you try to see US actions from the opposite view you might become REALLY angry. Why should it always be the other side, which is to blame ?!
Many of us, myself, Ronn, Ryanamur, Yorick, Memnoch, Silver Cheetah, etc etc get our news from SEVERAL sources. Me personally, I HATE the majority of American media. I prefer to get my news online. Try
www.reuters.com or
www.npr.com for impartial reporting. There are HUNDREDS of news sources online, and many people read them. So its more than a bit ridiculous for you to assume that none of us read them.
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...umm, and think of one thing : Terrorism is not the problem. It's a mean (undoubtly a terrible and completely unacceptable mean. and I would never try to find ANY excuses for terrorists. the attack on the 11th of sep was absolutely horrible) - one should think of the reasons...
On a final note. Almost all of your points have been addressed at one point or another in other threads. You *might* want to consider doing a bit of background reading on this forum *BEFORE* you come into a forum as serious as this one, and insult an entire nation. And when you do, you might want to do it with more ammunition than just your attitude.