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Old 12-15-2001, 11:43 AM   #74
Magness
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Join Date: January 7, 2001
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Originally posted by Yorick:

Capitalism has been proven time and again to enrich and sustain millions of individuals throughout history. Communism is, by your defenitions so unworkable that it has never been able to be properly implemented.

How fragile is the system if conditions have to be perfect for it to be properly implemented?



Great point, Yorick. Or to paraphrase your final sentence, how good is an economic system if all of its competition has to be eliminated before it can succeed?

From what Dramnek_Ulk and Barry the Sprout have been saying, it sounds to me that in the competition of economic sytems, communism is the loser because it cannot stand on its own two feet Capitalism works on all scales, small to global. If Barry's protestations are to be taken at face value, communism can only work when there is no competing economic system.

That sounds to me like saying that Beta VCR's could only succeed if VHS VCR's were banned, like Burger King could only make a profit if McDonalds were banned. Communism will only succeed if its competition is banned. Anything, and I mean absolutely, posititvely ANYTHING that depends on the elimination of its competition to be able to succeed, is ALREADY a failure!!!

Furthermore, I suspect that if communism were tried again and it was pure straight-from-the-manifesto Marxist Communism, that as soon as it failed in practice, the communist true believers would still be saying that it wasn't done correctly and that we should try yet again. The same is certainly true here in the USA with a number of failing liberal programs. "It wasn't implemented right." "Enough money wasn't spent." (even after trillions have been wasted.) Liberals and communists are simply incapable of admitting that they are wrong and that their policies won't work. To do so would be tantemount to philosophical and emotional suicide.
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