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Old 12-13-2001, 04:20 PM   #67
Magness
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Join Date: January 7, 2001
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Originally posted by Dramnek_Ulk:

It IS possible to apply communism as a democracy and in a peaceful and humane manner.



Yeah ... right.... sure. Peaceful and humane manner??? Yeah, sure.


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Originally posted by Dramnek_Ulk:

If we look at society today, we in the west have far more than we will ever need. Enough food is grown to feed everyone, enough clothes are made to cover everyone, and yet there is still inequality. This inequality is artificially sustained by capitalism and the mindset created by it, only through communism and socialism shall humanity ever have a chance at changing the base inequity of life. The American government is simply the tool of the current ruling class (the rich) and therefore has no interest in redressing the global imbalance of wealth, the composition and polices of Bush of Bush's government are enough to tell this at a glance.



What a load of complete, unadulterated BS!!! If you don't have enough food, then go buy some. If you don't have the money to buy food, get a damned job!!! If you still don't have enough money, get a 2nd job!!! If you don't have the skills to get a good paying job, go look in the mirror. The only person to blame is yourself!!!

The inequality that you describe is largely accounted for by the fact that there are successful and unsuccessful people in any society. The succcessful people are well-off. The very successful people are rich. The unsuccessful people are neither.

I am not a rich person. I am currently an umemployed computer programmer. "The American government ... has no interest in redressing the global imbalance of wealth..." And neither do I!!! The United States grew to its current position in the world in only 225 years due to hard work and perserverence!!! Furthermore, the US did not seek out its current status. We have WW1 and WW2 to thank for that. Without those two wars, the American people may have been content to stay on our side of the Atlantic and Pacific Oceans and ignore the rest of the world. But NOOOOOOOOOOOOOO... Germany (and Italy and Japan and Austria-Hungary) had to get all rowdy in the first half of the 20th century and the US was forced to come to the rescue, twice.


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Originally posted by comrade Dramnek_Ulk:

Under capitalism you have no freedom. Everything you do is dictated by Money.



What kind of dope are you smoking??? I suppose that the people bought food (what little where was available) with good will?

Hey here's another clue!!! The US farm economy is so productive because of simple capitalistic supply and demand, not because some bleeping damned government commissar told them what to grow. Heck, here in the US, the government has to pay farmers NOT to grow too much!!! That sure as hell would not be the case under Herr Marx's view of paradise.

quote:

Communism is the only way.
In time people will see this and perhaps one day start the long journey to freedom.



As I said before...
The sky is blue, fishes swin in the sea, fascism and communism are evil.

Why is communism evil? Both China and the USSR spend the 2nd half of the 20th century trying to prove that they could committ genocide as well as Nazi Germany!!! I can think of 20 million or more reasons to hate communism!!!
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