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Magness · 11-27-2001, 11:52 PM

Regarding civil rights, racial/ehtnic/nation profiling...

A while back I was watching (horrors!!!) CNN and a CNN reporter (not a guest talking head) made the rather interesting comment (I apologize to any Swedes in advance, I am merely repeating) (Also, I am paraphrasing... I don't remember the exact words.)

"When Swedes start flying planes into buildings, then I'll worry about Swedes. For now it's young Middle Eastern men who are doing this. Therefore, I see nothing wrong with profiling young middle eastern men."

And I agree with the gist of this statement. When you know for a fact that the potential terrorists fall into a certain definable group of persons, it is utterly ridiculous to try to pretend and act otherwise for sake of political correctness!!!

Furthermore, remember, we are not talking about some undefinable threat of something that might happen. We're talking about a real attack on the US by members of the above defined group of persons. And the threat that another attack(s) could occur. OBL has certainly urged further attacks. The "threat" is very real.

This is not like the "threat" of sabotage by Japanese-Americans in WW2. That was pure and simple unsubstantiated fear. Had there been sabotage attacks made by said citizens, that might have been one thing. But to the best of my knowledge, no such attacks ever occured. Pure and simple fear, not backed up by reality.

But today, we do have reality, the reality that an attack was made on the US that cost us 4000+ lives of our citizens and not a few citizens of other countries. And those attacks were for a fact carried out by enemies that were hiding among us. The fear of another attack this time is not based on baseless fear. It is based on the knowledge that it was done once and could be done again.

I'm not really certain where we (i.e. the US) should proceed from here. At times, I think that we should "invite" all middle eastern non-citizens to leave in 30 days. Other times, I think why bother...

Oh a side comment ...

On of the terrorists convicted in the 1st bombing of the WTC turned out to be a naturalized American muslim from the middle east. I think that he should now (and should have been at the time) charged with TREASON!!!!! Furthermore, any American citizen who is found to have knowingly assisted in the 09-11 attacks should also be charged with TREASON!!!!!

11-27-2001, 11:52 PM	#9
Magness Quintesson Join Date: January 7, 2001 Location: Manchester, NH, USA Posts: 1,025	Regarding civil rights, racial/ehtnic/nation profiling... A while back I was watching (horrors!!!) CNN and a CNN reporter (not a guest talking head) made the rather interesting comment (I apologize to any Swedes in advance, I am merely repeating) (Also, I am paraphrasing... I don't remember the exact words.) "When Swedes start flying planes into buildings, then I'll worry about Swedes. For now it's young Middle Eastern men who are doing this. Therefore, I see nothing wrong with profiling young middle eastern men." And I agree with the gist of this statement. When you know for a fact that the potential terrorists fall into a certain definable group of persons, it is utterly ridiculous to try to pretend and act otherwise for sake of political correctness!!! Furthermore, remember, we are not talking about some undefinable threat of something that might happen. We're talking about a real attack on the US by members of the above defined group of persons. And the threat that another attack(s) could occur. OBL has certainly urged further attacks. The "threat" is very real. This is not like the "threat" of sabotage by Japanese-Americans in WW2. That was pure and simple unsubstantiated fear. Had there been sabotage attacks made by said citizens, that might have been one thing. But to the best of my knowledge, no such attacks ever occured. Pure and simple fear, not backed up by reality. But today, we do have reality, the reality that an attack was made on the US that cost us 4000+ lives of our citizens and not a few citizens of other countries. And those attacks were for a fact carried out by enemies that were hiding among us. The fear of another attack this time is not based on baseless fear. It is based on the knowledge that it was done once and could be done again. I'm not really certain where we (i.e. the US) should proceed from here. At times, I think that we should "invite" all middle eastern non-citizens to leave in 30 days. Other times, I think why bother... Oh a side comment ... On of the terrorists convicted in the 1st bombing of the WTC turned out to be a naturalized American muslim from the middle east. I think that he should now (and should have been at the time) charged with TREASON!!!!! Furthermore, any American citizen who is found to have knowingly assisted in the 09-11 attacks should also be charged with TREASON!!!!!