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Originally posted by Ronn_Bman:
From the Bible (This is not a religious discussion, but an answer to Nebs question about where the quote came from):
"Judge not, that ye be not judged.
For with what judgment ye judge, ye shall be judged: and with what
measure ye mete, it shall be measured to you again.
And why beholdest thou the mote that is in thy brother's eye, but
considerest not the beam that is in thine own eye?
Thou hypocrite, first cast out the beam out of thine own eye, and then
shalt thou see clearly to cast out the mote out of thy brother's eye."
Matthew: 7:1-5
That quote can go both ways!
The attitude of passing judgement on America is prevalent in these forums, and it's always the answer to anything posted. This forum has become less about the War on Terrorism, and more about what's wrong with America and how America is the problem with the world today.
It's not other nations passing judgement on America or America passing judgement on other nations in here. It's non-American individuals endlessly complaining about America. When Yorick made his "anti-British" post people were offended, should American's feel any less?
Yorick's anti british post (which I excused at the time, and for which he thanked me, incidently) was directed at Brits posting on the forum, and was pretty personal in nature. No-one is attacking individual Americans on this forum. What we are trying to do - for the umpteenth time! - is question what is happening in Afghanistan, and the root causes of it. Obviously that is going to take us into a lot of different areas. The behaviour of American multinationals who are crazy for profit, which they make at the expense of people's health and living conditions, sometimes lives, in the third world, is a large part of why America is often regarded negatively outside her own front door.
Go find out about Export Processing Zones people, those places across the world where more than 27 million people work in disgusting conditions, often for as long as 20 hours a day to make your branded products, sold by companies who spend millions on brand building and sweet ■■■■ all on production/labour costs. And then you come back and tell me about America the Brave, the Good and the Beautiful.
And no, it's not just American multinationals. But they led the way, and most of the exploitation is done at their behest. Other companies world wide now are taking on the model that companies like Nike and The Gap perfected. It's the only way to compete. What a great world we're building. And most people couldnt care less. Shut your eyes and think of... anything. Just don't think about how your cheap products come to you courtesy of the poverty of the third world.