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Magness · 11-26-2001, 04:54 PM

quote:

Originally posted by Silver Cheetah:

But yes, going back to evil actions that take place, and that have consequences. Obviously we have to take steps to deal with those actions, and if we can, prevent them from happening again. But I'm not one of those that thinks that violence solves all problems. All that happens is you temporarily stun the problem, which then gets up again when you're least expecting it, grabs your weapon, and beats the shit out of you with it. (Which is basically what has happened in Afghanistan.....)

This sounds a lot like "violence never solves anything".

I'd say that violence and war certainly "solved" problems of WW2 and the US Civil War. I am absolutely not advocating war as the solution to every problem. Violence (i.e.terrorist attack followed by reprisal followed by a reprisal terrorist attack) hasn't solved the Israeli-Palestinian problem. Four successive defeats of invading Arab countries by Isreal has solved the problem of invading Arab countries because Syria, Egypt, and Jordan got tired of getting their collective butts whupped.

However, I doubt that military success in Afghanistan, even if OBL is captured or killed, will end world terrorism (i.e. Muslim-Arab Terrorism). Until the middle east drags itself into the 21st century in every way (i.e. socially, economically, governmentally, and religiously), we will probably continue have this problem.

11-26-2001, 04:54 PM	#43
Magness Quintesson Join Date: January 7, 2001 Location: Manchester, NH, USA Posts: 1,025	quote: Originally posted by Silver Cheetah: But yes, going back to evil actions that take place, and that have consequences. Obviously we have to take steps to deal with those actions, and if we can, prevent them from happening again. But I'm not one of those that thinks that violence solves all problems. All that happens is you temporarily stun the problem, which then gets up again when you're least expecting it, grabs your weapon, and beats the shit out of you with it. (Which is basically what has happened in Afghanistan.....) This sounds a lot like "violence never solves anything". I'd say that violence and war certainly "solved" problems of WW2 and the US Civil War. I am absolutely not advocating war as the solution to every problem. Violence (i.e.terrorist attack followed by reprisal followed by a reprisal terrorist attack) hasn't solved the Israeli-Palestinian problem. Four successive defeats of invading Arab countries by Isreal has solved the problem of invading Arab countries because Syria, Egypt, and Jordan got tired of getting their collective butts whupped. However, I doubt that military success in Afghanistan, even if OBL is captured or killed, will end world terrorism (i.e. Muslim-Arab Terrorism). Until the middle east drags itself into the 21st century in every way (i.e. socially, economically, governmentally, and religiously), we will probably continue have this problem.