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Old 11-26-2001, 11:45 AM   #21
Magness
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Join Date: January 7, 2001
Location: Manchester, NH, USA
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Reply to Silver Cheetah ...

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MY ANSWER Claptrap. Not only claptrap, this is a postively dangerous attitude. This black/white, good/evil crap is totally simplistic, and does away with all need (in the opinions of those that tout it) for examining cause and effect.
Questioning of government aims and actions is fundamental if we are to continue to live in a democratic society that is moving towards (in theory anyway) securing a decent life for all global citizens. The US is the only remaining world power, for the time being anyway. What is does and how it does it is of HUGE concern to all global citizens.
So you want us all to sit here doing our Noddy imitation? Cheers, Big Ears, you can do the robot thing all you want - me, I've got a brain and I like using it.


S/C, actually, I am quite interested in the cause(s) and effect of this current situation. However, I have no interest in viewing them as an excuse for 9/11. (I'm not sayign that you are either, although I have heard some who sometimes come pretty darned close.)

The concept of good and evil is not crap. And I generally feel that attempting to turn the world into many shades of gray is often little more than an attempt to excuse one's own or someone else's evil actions by trying to blur the lines between good and evil.

Just curious, what's a "Noddy imitation"?

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YES, I can question all I damn well like! I live in a democracy where free speech is allowed. (Didn't America used to be that way once upon a time?? (Don't question, either for us or against us... next thing we know, it'll be 'off with her head'!! Where have we heard all this before......... )


Actually, I never question anyone's "right" to say what they feel or question what they want. But conversely, "freedom of speech" (and I'm using this consceptually, not the US Consitution's strict definition) doesn't necessarily mean that a person has the right to speak out against a majority (or a minority) opinion without being challenged.
Perhaps a better way to say this is ... I'm not challenging your right to say what you think. I am challenging what you have said and (what I may be misinterpreting) an apparent feeling that you have the right to speak unchallenged.

Speak on!!! It's actually rather enjoyable to read reasonably well written and well thought out (even if I disagree vociferously).

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MY ANSWER If you don't give a shit about the future of this planet and the legacy we're going to be leaving our children and grandchildren, there are plenty that are.
Socialist/anarchist troublemakers, eh? Well, duckie, I'm one of those 'troublemakers', as you've probably sussed by now. My fellow 'troublemakers' are nurses, doctors, IT professionals, writers, artists..... the list is a long one. Dippy hippies are definitely in the minority as far as activism goes these days ..... (BTW, I work in the finance sector, mostly for IT. My feet are firmly on the ground, mister.)


S/c, I care plenty about the future. I am an "IT professional". I am not exactly the raving lunatic rabid conservative that you may (or may not) think I am. It's not so much that I am a rabid conservative than I am a "hater" of communism/socialism/liberalism and political correctness. And my autonomic reflex action is that if a socialist or liberal proposes something, then I will oppose it. I don't define "caring" as agreeing with liberals.

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Propaganda?
Give it a C
Give it a N
Give it an N
Three rousing cheers for CNN - transmitting 'the world according to America' (as it is fondly known this side of the pond... )


I got a real chuckle over this comment!!! CNN isn't 'the world according to America'!!! It's the world according to the US liberal intelligensia. Didn't you know that CNN stands for the Clinton News Network???

I'm a Fox News junkie. They're far more balanced. I know that some view them as a right wing network, but those people have been so brainwashed by decades of liberal news bias that anything even a smidge slightly to the right of CNN, ABC, NBC, or CBS appears to be a bunch of rabid fascists.


Ah well, that's enough for now.
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