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11-12-2001, 04:51 PM

quote:
Originally posted by Ronn_Bman:
The election may have looked "messy", but it was resolved per the Constitution, the greatest law of our land, by the US Supreme Court, the highest court in the judicial branch of our three tiered governmental system. The Supreme Court decides on the interpretation of the Constitution, and their word is final.

That election was messy! A travesty to Democracy! Even if I had not voted, I'd have to be pretty ignorant of human nature and greed on both sides not to see what went on.
It was resolved by appointed judges, not elected judges and their majority favored Bush being in office. Just because their word is final does not mean that it is right.

This does not mean the popular vote doesn't count! The popular vote, on the state level, determines who that state's Electorial votes are cast for. It's an all or nothing system designed to "level the playing field". By this, I mean it's intent is to make all votes equally important whether rural or urban. The winner of the state, in popular votes, gets all of that state's Electorial votes.

We'll honestly never know if Florida was won by popular vote or force. I am inclined to believe it was taken by force after the actions of Republicans against vote counters, breaking down doors and taking ballots, threatening violence, etc. Sure the Democrats got violent! They wanted to make damn sure that Bush had "won" or not!

There is nothing wrong with the current system and nothing unique (unusual, but not unique) about the 2000 presidental election.

Excuse me? Even government officials will admit, the system needs updating and refined!
Where do you think the older most malfunctioning voting machines are placed? In minority districts. That's a fact, Jack!
Anyone with a high school education knows that the system is messed up because it is unfair to poorer districts and favors the richer ones! (Remember "The American Way"?

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Unusual? No, it was unique. Whenever in history did the FLorida vote come down to being counted or given up through violence, or any other state for that matter?

There was no Bush "conspiracy".

*cough*Katherine Harris*cough
soon to *cough*run*cough for Senate

Questions were asked, and decided by our laws, through the interpretation of the US Supreme Court. Internationally, it may have looked "bad", but it worked as legally as it is suppose to. Domestically, there are those Americans who didn't like Bush then, and those who will never like him, but right now they are in the minority.

I don't count myself or the majority of the popular vote as a minority! And as legally as it was supposed to could very well be "interrpreted" as "as legally as it cost"

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Anyway, here is an interesting link for all sides of the issue, not just the elections but voting machines and all:

URL's on the 2000 U.S. Presidential Elections

Prepare to stay busy if you are interested enough to look through the headlines and articles!

Edited to correct the code for your last paragraph being bold. [img]smile.gif[/img]

[ 11-12-2001: Message edited by: Moni ]

11-12-2001, 04:51 PM	#54
Moni Guest Posts: n/a	quote: Originally posted by Ronn_Bman: The election may have looked "messy", but it was resolved per the Constitution, the greatest law of our land, by the US Supreme Court, the highest court in the judicial branch of our three tiered governmental system. The Supreme Court decides on the interpretation of the Constitution, and their word is final. That election was messy! A travesty to Democracy! Even if I had not voted, I'd have to be pretty ignorant of human nature and greed on both sides not to see what went on. It was resolved by appointed judges, not elected judges and their majority favored Bush being in office. Just because their word is final does not mean that it is right. This does not mean the popular vote doesn't count! The popular vote, on the state level, determines who that state's Electorial votes are cast for. It's an all or nothing system designed to "level the playing field". By this, I mean it's intent is to make all votes equally important whether rural or urban. The winner of the state, in popular votes, gets all of that state's Electorial votes. We'll honestly never know if Florida was won by popular vote or force. I am inclined to believe it was taken by force after the actions of Republicans against vote counters, breaking down doors and taking ballots, threatening violence, etc. Sure the Democrats got violent! They wanted to make damn sure that Bush had "won" or not! There is nothing wrong with the current system and nothing unique (unusual, but not unique) about the 2000 presidental election. Excuse me? Even government officials will admit, the system needs updating and refined! Where do you think the older most malfunctioning voting machines are placed? In minority districts. That's a fact, Jack! Anyone with a high school education knows that the system is messed up because it is unfair to poorer districts and favors the richer ones! (Remember "The American Way"? ) Unusual? No, it was unique. Whenever in history did the FLorida vote come down to being counted or given up through violence, or any other state for that matter? There was no Bush "conspiracy". coughKatherine Harriscough soon to coughruncough for Senate Questions were asked, and decided by our laws, through the interpretation of the US Supreme Court. Internationally, it may have looked "bad", but it worked as legally as it is suppose to. Domestically, there are those Americans who didn't like Bush then, and those who will never like him, but right now they are in the minority. I don't count myself or the majority of the popular vote as a minority! And as legally as it was supposed to could very well be "interrpreted" as "as legally as it cost" [img]tongue.gif[/img] Anyway, here is an interesting link for all sides of the issue, not just the elections but voting machines and all: URL's on the 2000 U.S. Presidential Elections Prepare to stay busy if you are interested enough to look through the headlines and articles! Edited to correct the code for your last paragraph being bold. [img]smile.gif[/img] [ 11-12-2001: Message edited by: Moni ]