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Originally posted by Nachtrafe:
OK...I have a serious question Ziroc.
Why is this "Totally funny!" an Sir Kenyth's pacifist joke 'insulting, degrading, meanspirited', and deleted. The apparent, cited reason being that it was 'potentially hurtful'. Well stop the presses. Just walking down the street is 'potentially hurtful'. Any post on this board, up to and including, "Hi, how are you today?' is 'potentially hurtful'. Where do you draw the line?
I have been feeling, in the last couple of days, that I am being penalized for having a strong opinion. I have wanted to post on several threads, but was worried that expressing my strong opinions would get me in trouble with the powers that be. While these serious threads were still on GD, I know I was one of the people who was escalating things. And I did my best to make amends. Since you have created this forum, I have done everything possible to refrain from personal insults. I have still expressed strong opinions, and in very strong terms. But with the current atmosphere, I am nervous about doing even that.
To be perfectly honesy Ziroc, when I first got involved in IW, I was a very low key poster. I was a member for over a month before I even hit 5 posts. But when the war happened and serious threads started popping up, I immediately got involved. I have made friends here, met people I like and respect, and it is because of those threads, and this forum.
And now, everyone is walking on eggshells and almost seem afraid to post their opinions for fear that they will be banned. Others are leaving. Some came back, and I am glad of that. The atmosphere is a thousand times more tense than it was a week ago. Now, I, for one, have no desire to be either banned, or to leave. But, if all that is left is fluff, then I will have no reason to post. And currently, GD is mostly fluff. I understand that this is backlash from the stress that has been going on, but its still a factor.
Anyway..the point of all this is that I would just like to know where the line is? Are we still allowed to post our opinions? Are we still allowed to do it in strong terms? Are we still allowed to engage in those spirited debates? I understand the need to avoid personal attacks, and to have respect. But one poster's 'personal opinion' is anothers 'personal attack'. So where is the line being drawn?
I hope this doesn't sound belligerent, or out of line. I am genuinely curious and upset. I feel like I have found a second home in IW. But, in my first, real home, I dont tiptoe around for fear of upsetting people's sensibilities, and I dont believe I should have to here.
Thanks in advance for the time.
Nachtrafe
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As I posted here:
http://www.ironworksforum.com/ubb/No...ML/000105.html
And Here:
http://www.ironworksforum.com/ubb/No...ML/000001.html
The line is really simple, no personal attacks, and no attacks on someones beliefs/race/religion/creed. That Joke post may have been funny to some, but it also made many people mad.
No matter what I do here, I will put someones nose out of joint. I have learned that, and except it.. SUCKS, but It must be done. Ironworks hasn't become one of the best forums on the net for poor management.

Our Mods and I don't take sides, and try to look at each post from a 'neutral' position.
PS: Just for future reference (For everyone), please email me privately for questions like these.
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