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Old 10-21-2001, 12:45 PM   #20
Ryanamur
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Join Date: March 29, 2001
Location: Montréal, Canada
Age: 50
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Originally posted by Ronn_Bman:

It just seems you enjoy saying, "it's Americans", "it's your fault", and "you brought it on yourselves." We don't have all the evidence, so why would you imply Americans on a guess, knowing it's inflammatory.

Listen, I'll just stop here about the Taliban thing 'cause I don't want to cause a flame war and created havock on this wonderfull forum. The bottom line is that we both agree that Bin Ladden and associates must be dealt with and that something must be done about the anti-western civilisation sentiment present in that part of the world. Though we might not agree as to the ways to achieve both doesn't mean that we have to split peas in half and engage into an all out war on the subject. We know who the true ennemy is and we both have different ways of dealing with him... that's all

However, I will shed light on the above remark. Yes, it's true, in a way, the Western Civilization did bring this on it self. Note that I'm not just restricting to the USA. Our policies over the last 100 years have been detrimental to other civilizations though we may not acknowledge it. We did what we did for our reasons and for our own protection. Wouldn't we have done it, I fear that the world would have been a much different world than what we now enjoy. However, protecting our interests meant to go against those of others. That's just a fact of life.

Now, why the USA was the prime target. It was both the only true identifiable target of our civilization but also an easy one to get to. North America (both the USA and Canada) have always lived in this little fantasy bubble. Our security system, especially since the end of the Cold War as been the shi**. To us, everything is wonderfull, we have freedoms, we're allowed to roam free and do pretty much anything we want etc etc. That, coupled with the fact that the USA was the self-proclaimed (but also rightfully self-proclaimed) leader of the free world unfortunately made your country the prime target

Still, even within our own society, we have people that are willing to take harms in the name of a cause. You have american terrorists (I left the capital on purpose as I don't believe that terrorists deserve it ). Timothy McVeigh was one of them. Not only the USA have native terrorists, Canada, UK, France, Italy, Germany, Japan and many other countries around our Civilized world also do.

To say that the anthrax attack might be "locally" based is not like saying "you guys are total screw ups". Quite to the contrary. It's just to acknowledge the fact that those attacks might not be Bin Ladden's work and that others might be taking advantage of the situation for their own gain . Regardless if it's Bin Ladden or not, we still have to find the culprits and deal with them in an appropriate way. And BTW, I think that those pranksters who just slip flour, baking soda or sugar into an enveloppe to make a joke should be dealt with like terrorists because that's what they are... though they might not realize it, they cause terror in our society... not just in the USA.

You say that because we do not have all the evidence, we cannot say that it's an American based group. Knowing that you do not have all the evidence either, how can you conclusively say that it's Bin Ladden?

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