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Old 10-22-2001, 09:11 AM   #44
Donut
Jack Burton
 

Join Date: March 1, 2001
Location: Airstrip One
Age: 41
Posts: 5,571
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Originally posted by tracey:


the days of the raj are long gone - thankfully and i don't really think anyone thinks or yearns for them - i haven't met any, anyway.





Amen to that.

Yorick, if you really feel that we are clinging on to past glories then it's you that is living in the past. The people that I know have no doubt as to our position in whole scheme of things. You would have had a point 40 or 50 years ago but we don't use a pink map any more.

Similarly, I don't blame myself for the crimes commited by my ancestors. They lived in a different time when things were done differently. I can only concern myself and try to influence things that are happening today.

I'm not upset about anything that has been said about the brits on this board this weekend - I don't take your criticisms as 'brit bashing'. I like to think I can accept criticism. I'm also aware that you are trying to make a particular point here.

With regard to your points about flag waving and patriotism - I too would rather live here than anywhere else, I don't think that makes me a rabid patriot.

One last comment, and this is just information about how things go on here and not a comment on any other countries. The one time that you see flag waving and singing songs like Rule Brittania, Land of Hope and Glory etc., is at the 'Last Night of the Proms' a series of classical concerts held every year. Because our country is at war these songs were dropped this year because they were thought to be too jingoistic. Similary it was suggested that the words of Land of Hope and Glory be changed while we are at war.

'Wider still and wider' as the great Jim Royle would say 'My Arse!




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