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Old 10-10-2001, 03:34 PM   #99
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Originally posted by Diogenes Of Pumpkintown:

Are we to say that America's actions cannot be criticized, because that would be an attack on the American people?


Of course not, but unfortunately the two are often intertwined.
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Even in Nazi Germany, not all Germans supported the terrible actions done by Hitler's government. Surely you don't believe that condemning the actions of that Nazi government, even in harsh terms, amounts to condemning the whole German people? Surely one can criticize that goverment without attacking the whole people?
Dunno where you've been, Dio, but quite often that IS the attitude I've come across. Many folk are not as well versed in history as you and most of us here are and they DO equate a movement like that with the whole nation. Wrongfully, of course, but they do it nonetheless. (Ok, sorta OT, but he did mention it! LOL)

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I think, as an American, that the American government and its actions in recent history very much need to be criticized. That does not mean i condemn all Americans (which of course would include condemning myself )

Food for thought
At the same time, keep in mind that there are people, yes some are Americans who do NOT agree with you and they have equally valid reasons. Sometimes a stalemate is the best one can do.

Cloudy, who has long since given up chess

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