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Originally posted by Garnet:
This, I feel, must be said.
Yorick, you are out of line in this set of statements. G'kar has in no way stated he is,partakes in, or condones Satanism. Neither am/do I, but I do have insights that perhaps some do not. That is neither here nor there. You read two books, had a co-worker with odd (to you) ideas and saw an interview and now consider yourself some sort of expert on *all* matters satanic *and* occult. Wow, may I study under you?
Unfortunately there are as many denominations of this belief system as there are in Christianity. Can you honestly say that all Baptists believe and worship the exact same and that they in turn are exactly like the Presbyterians and the Episopalians and.....? No. I am *NOT* condoning Satanism or any other religion. It is not my right, responsibility or obligation, but I do claim some minor knowledge outside the mainstream Christian (and Satanist, BTW) propaganda.
I am apalled at the experiences you have described. However, this gives you no reason or right to (apparently) turn loose on someone who is trying to make a valid point that not all should be tarred with the same brush as the fringe. This is extremely dangerous--indeed, isn't that exactly what bin Laden and the Taliban (and others) do when they equate *all* Americans with capitalistic, oppresive, non-Muslim westerners who need be eradicated?
Of course, only my .02.
Garnet
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Garnet, if I'm out of line you're out of line. You failed to mention my close friend who was gang raped as a child in Satanic rituals her father participated in, and failed to pick up my euphemistic reference to my co-workers "interesting" theories. They were disgusting and illegal, which is why I will not reference them.
So how does one find out about a religion? One reads relevant texts, talks to participants and relatives of adherants, and listens to public statements from the said religion.
If the religion you are talking about is not the same as what I am talking about, then it is obviously a different religion. Satanism is the religion I am talking about. Satanists had views and performed acts which are illegal, harmed others and are shrouded in secrecy. If not all have these views how would I know? I can only go on what I've seen and heard, and all of it that I've seen and heard makes me sick.
If there are Satanists who do not practice these things then perhaps they should consider giving themselves an additional name to remove themselves from the same brush. Christians and other faiths do. We can accurately say that Wahabism has visited destruction upon other muslims and the west, not all Islam. We can say that Jesuit Catholicism visited horrors upon Protestant "heretics" during the inquisition. We can say the Roman Catholicism embarked on crusades. You cannot say that Pentecostal Christians went on crusades and tortured other believers, nor that Sufism is violently extremist.
I decry rape. I is evil. If I offend in criticising those that ritualise it so be it.
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I am the walrus!.... er, no hang on....
A fair dinkum laughing Hyena!
[This message has been edited by Yorick (edited 10-10-2001).]