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Originally posted by Yorick:
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Originally posted by John D Harris:
I'm aware the map indicates the rest of the world didn't want President Bush to win re-election, I'm also aware that citizens of those countries have as much say about who we elect in the USA, as citizens of the USA has about who their leaders are, Zero say. There maybe concern/interest/desire to see one leader over another, but those things are not "say".
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I do believe it's called money and political pressure. Those things are "say" John. The American economy relies on exports and imports with other countries who have opinions about who they'd prefer in the white house.
If America is the New Rome, and the Pres the Emperor, you can bet we provincials have every right to care about elections that determine, in some cases, life and death. If they really want to, those countries can have their say by boycotting American products, barring tourism and immigration to Americans, voting as a bloc in the UN, raising tarrifs, expelling diplomats etc etc etc.
It is an arrogant imperialist who doesn't care a fig what the rest of the world thinks. Arrogant imperialist. It's called "riding roughshod". I would think what the rest of the world thinks about the person that speaks and represents you to them is quite important. [/QUOTE]So Yorick how did you vote? or your money vote? what about your feelings? when did they cast votes? Votes is what counts in an election or have you forgotten in the re-count thread you want to re-count votes?
Stop buying our exports, stop exporting to us! Go ahead make my day cut the Largest consumer in the world out of your bussiness, just don't come complaining to me when you can't meet payroll, can't pay the bills because you decided to quit selling to your biggest customer. Stop American tourism, don't let us spend our money in your countries! Lordy, Lordy, I've been saying for years I look forward to the next Dark ages.
Nowhere did I say it wasn't important to the rest of the world, I said the rest of the world has no "say" in our elections any more then I as a US citizen has a "say" in the elections of your native country. That's the reality of life, I make no claim as to wiether it is pretty, or nice but that it IS. It is the United State of America not the United State of Earth. Now if any country wishes to become part of the USA we'll be happy to let them in provided they get the propper number of votes to join the Union. Until then they are not part of this Union and as outsiders to the Union they have no "say".
[ 11-18-2004, 12:29 PM: Message edited by: John D Harris ]