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Originally posted by MagiK:
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Originally posted by Stratos:
No, it isn't. [img]tongue.gif[/img]
Technically, if the Coalition troops were to leave to where THEY come, most of the killings would stop as well as the attacks are aimed at foreigners.
Can't do that. "With great Power comes Great Responsibility"...we had to get rid of Saddam...and we HAVE to help the people of Iraq to get back on their feet and to a place where they can join the rest of the modern world. The coalition forces cannot just pick up and leave. It would be a completely morraly corrupt thing to do.
Now, I don't support the troops just leaving, I just wanted to point out that it's not reasonable to blame the insurgents alone on the deaths. It's sounds like you're saying "Sure, we bombed some people, but THEY made us do it".
You cannot and must not judge both sides as if they are the same or equal or even that both ideologies are valid... in this conflict. Both sides do not have to be suicidal immoral anti-humanitarian religious zealots...only one side has to be. The sides are not even, one side is for Human liberty and for freedoms and rights, the other represents islamofacism and supression of human rights and equality.
No, the Coalition is to be "blamed" for the death they cause, just as the insurgents/terrorists are to be blamed for theirs. Again, you are placing both sides on the same moral level and this is wrong. (in my opinion...I know people who can justify any murder or killing so others may have different views)
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[/QUOTE]I wont try to put my answers inside the box above, I would just mess up the tags. I'll quote directly.
"You cannot and must not judge both sides as if they are the same or equal or even that both ideologies are valid... in this conflict"
If you don't judge them by the same standards, then what standards to use and what are then the justifications for them? If you judge the two sides by the same, or similar standards, you are automatically doing a comparison between them and I would bet the insurgents and terrorists wont score high at all. Issues can be raised on how the Coalition have handled the conlict, but the terrorists are just a hopeless case.
"Both sides do not have to be suicidal immoral anti-humanitarian religious zealots...only one side has to be."
Not all of them are all these, there are many different insurgent groups. Just wondering, what exactly do you mean by immoral and anti-humanitarian?
" The sides are not even, one side is for Human liberty and for freedoms and rights, the other represents islamofacism and supression of human rights and equality."
Only from our perspective. They appearantly think they're doing the right thing, otherwise they wouldn't be doing it. If it's right or wrong in a absolute way is a different matter. In any case, they islamists have their own brand of human rights and equality based on religious laws. They don't like ours and believe theirs is superior.
"Again, you are placing both sides on the same moral level and this is wrong. (in my opinion...I know people who can justify any murder or killing so others may have different views)"
Whomever pulls the trigger is responsible for the resulting death. It might be seen as justified given the situation, perhaps, but the responsibility is clear, in my opinion.