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Old 09-15-2004, 06:19 PM   #11
Felix The Assassin
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Join Date: September 27, 2001
Location: Orlando, FL
Age: 62
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Originally posted by Grojlach:
quote:
Originally posted by Timber Loftis:
Whether or not you were originally part of an ambush, if one occurs near you and you run TOWARD it, you have chosen to take part in it. You have chosen a side, even if it's as a third party, and you should well be expected to be treated as an enemy force.

Isn't this one of those Darwin Awards things?
Did you see the footage, even if it was only a few seconds long? It wasn't just "ambushers" that got killed, but there was regular traffic going on in the streets just the same between the tank and the reporter at the moment of the attack. I still have a feeling that they could have solved the situation in a more subtle manner, or at least they could have tried to divert traffic before their attempted destruction of the tank (as to minimise the number of innocent civilians, regardless of the moral question whether those still sitting on the tank have chosen to make themselves a target or not). As it is right now, it seems the attack really *did* came out of the blue, even considering the circumstances. [/QUOTE]Your link to that video tells a lot to the trained eye. First lets talk about the pops, and cracks, and the increased fire. Thats called secondary explosions, probably 25mm, belts of 7.62mm, or grenades cooking off.
Now, as the media man walks into view, and the narrator, shrills nobody expected what happened next. Show me where the AH fired, show me what it fired, don't show a burning BFV that is already experiencing secondary explosions. I say it's "look at what the Americans did", when from what I saw, it was a secondary explosion, probably from a TOW missile that destroyed the BFV and the crowd. The AHs were overhead awaiting the CIVPOL and Military to evacuate, and make the area safe. Prior to firing.

Relook the begining of the clip, and it's clear as bottled water, the BFV is already experienceing secondary explosions.
Relook the part where they claim the AH fired. Why all of a sudden did the picture change? I say media work to claim something that never happened! The BFV was destroyed by a secondary explosion from within.

Relook the foreground, if the AH would have fired a 'Hellfire" those two trees would no longer be, and half that city block would be gone, not just the minor concentrated danage.

My final two cents. The major blast was contained with-in the BFV, that is what contained the brunt of the blow. If that would have been a 'Hellfire' there would be no video to examine from that camera!
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