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Originally posted by Timber Loftis:
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Originally posted by Djinn Raffo:
Semantics holds a massive place in the 'gay marriage' debate because the definition of marriage is what the debate is all about.
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Yep. But, enough people in this country prefer to-may-toes to to-mah-toes that the gay rights movement is really buggering itself by making a big deal about the term "marriage."
If they just would be smart enough to go for "all the substantive rights of marriage, no matter what you bigots want to call it" then they would have the support of the vast majority, including both presidential candidates. And, it is my personal experience, from knowing a LOT of gay people, that by and large they just care about the substantive rights (if they care at all -- some don't give a rat's ass about marriage in the least).
But, it's the agenda of the extreme gay rights groups -- Lambda, B-GLAD, Rainbow Coalition -- that have hijacked the whole gay population and misrepresented the majority of what gays believe and want in order to pursue their more radical political agenda. It's currently backfiring on them.
A lot of people get pissed when you give someone an inch and they try to take a mile. For the majority of small-brained conservatives, civil unions are fine, but gay marriages aren't. That's a long way for small-brained conservatives to have come in the last decade or two. Unfortunately, that paradigmatical change in attitude in this country cannot be capitalized upon because the small group of small-brained gay rights groups insist that "that isn't enough."
Anyway, [img]graemlins/rant.gif[/img] over -- for now. [/QUOTE]Preach it Brother T.L. Preach IT!!!! I vote for your original proposel(sp?) and call it "Bob" instead of marriage.
I believe it is funny to see there are those complaining about one side holding onto something YET they themselves hold on to something. I say hold on to what you want to hold on too, if you are able to keep ahold of IT great if you lose IT great. At least you are alive to try and hold on to something.