A dividing line exists between homosexuality and bestiality/paedophilia, Yorick -- it's called CONSENT.
Now, I argued against your point about a heterosexual couple being able to produce their own child long ago, and feel I won that little bout. In fact, when I pointed out that if only couples that could procreate should raise children, then we should deny adoptions to infertile couples. When you retorted with "well, they could procreate, if it weren't for the infertility" than I knew I'd won that one fair and square -- because it's equally true that a homosexual male couple could procreate so long as one had a working uterus. [img]graemlins/biglaugh.gif[/img] So, needless to say, I'm not going down that road again with you.
What I do want to address are the glaring factual mistakes you've made above.
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In America, abortion is legal, so unwanted children are killed, meaning there are not nearly enough children to satiate the demand for adoption meaning, yes, people go to China, or your aforementioned Indonesia to adopt.
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Well, we are one world community, so as long as unwanted children are getting homes, who cares where the homes are located? More importantly, there are a lot of children in America to adopt -- not all unwanted children get aborted. I presume you realize that, but your post doesn't read that way. People will skip over unwanted children here and adopt elsewhere for several reasons, including (1) want to get a very young child, (2) don't want a crack baby, and (3) would prefer to circumvent annoying U.S. red tape in the adoption process. This does not, however, mean there are no children here to adopt.
Now, if your point is really that whitebread Americans are a dying breed, just like whitebread Euros, and they should procreate more to keep their kind from being bred out of existence, well you may have a point. I'll get my sheet, and we can continue the discussion. I did hear a funny comedian the other night say that he and all like-minded black men had a vested interest in making sure white men didn't die out, because they need us: no more white men, no more white women.
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And yet none survived outside small enclaves in Tibet and Utah. It doesn't make for a strong society.
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Here's your other factual fallacy. You've ignored quite a large polygamistic society that exists in the Middle East, and has been quite successful. Just how many wives does one of Osama's 50 brothers have, I wonder? I'll send them and the Saudi royalty a note that this guy in NYC said they weren't a strong society.