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Old 08-08-2004, 05:41 PM   #42
Yorick
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Join Date: January 7, 2001
Location: Breukelen (over the river from New Amsterdam)
Age: 53
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Originally posted by Illumina Drathiran'ar:
Oh, I can't wait for civilization to collapse. I also can't wait for incest and bestiality to become legal like Ricky dearest warned would happen.
Caligula married his horse. Rome fell into indefensible population slide that led to the collapse of western civilisation. People are basing their opinions on FACTS that have occured in the past.
Rome plummetting population was a direct cointributor in it's fall. Europe's has been falling for a fair while, as has Americas. That is where people draw similarities. Hedonism, leading to a culture of SELF SELF SELF, instread of looking out for each other, or the society as a whole. Giving homosexual marriages the same benefits and encouragements as hetrosexual ones, is a SYMPTOM of a situation, not the REASON for it. Again, very historical. Precedents abound. Rome and Greece in particular.

Also at issue, is that polygamists are being refused legal marriage licences. What is at issue is the defenition of marriage. Kept at one man, one woman, it is simple and clear cut. We will not see the end of this. Polygamy will be legal, just as homosexual marriages are legal. And then we will see bestial marriages, child brides (as has occured in history) and whatever else takes peoples fancy - BECAUSE IT HAS HAPPENED BEFORE.

America is not a vacuum. Learning how to develop society in isolation. You are not the posessors of unique experiences. Theses issues have occured before and will occur again.

Society NEEDS strong child-producing hetrosexual marriages if it is to perpetuate. When these are not encouraged and supported society DOES collapse. Every society that has lost sight of that has in fact collapsed.

But the world will go on. We'll just find that Roman Catholics and Muslims, who will end up outnumbering the rest of us, will be able to enforce their harsher brands of morality on us.
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