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Old 08-09-2004, 09:39 PM   #9
Magness
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Join Date: January 7, 2001
Location: Manchester, NH, USA
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Originally posted by Timber Loftis:
Nightstalker, I'd like to see that ticket as well. THAT ticket would actually spark some real debate.

But as it is, tossing Nader into the mix just cinches it for the RNC -- it's neck-and-neck right now.

And, I don't think the Dem platform is that weak, even though I disagree with some portions of it. What I think drives people against the Dems is the notion that they are weak-willed, overly-sympathetic, or lilly-livered -- "spoiled cry-babies" Nightstalker calls it. I find this to be a caricature persona inspired by the far left of the party. I don't know whether to blame Republicans or the Democrats of the 70's and 80's for this persona, but it has stuck. Most democrats I've run across are every bit as willing as Republicans to run effective economies, balance budgets, punish crime, and use the military.

Unless you've got a more specific charge of general "cry-babyism," of course. And, don't go quoting me Al Sharpton or other radicals -- that's not the party's center or its base.
TL, the Dem party base is very liberal. I'm not talking about the run of the mill Dem voters. I'm talking about the party activists, etc. The people who show up for rallies, and volunteer for candidates.

Kerry is very much one of those "weak-willed, overly-sympathetic, or lilly-livered" liberal weenies. He's the #1 liberal according to the very organization that ranks liberals *FOR* liberals. (Sorry, don't remember the name of the think tank.)

He's voted against every significant military system since joining the Senate. He's voted against every significant military operation that was voted on in the Senate, since he became a Senator. He's about as squishy a liberal as its possible to be.
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