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Old 08-03-2004, 01:31 PM   #48
Oblivion437
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Join Date: June 17, 2002
Location: NY
Age: 38
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Originally posted by Timber Loftis:
Oblivion, you've bought into the NRA knee-jerk to any gun legislation hook, line, and sinker. I haven't.
Did you read the two documents in question? All gun control is illegal, period. Within the Constitution there is also the supremacy clause, which states that no state or local body may pass a law in direct contravention to the constitution. The ninth and fourteenth ammendments. It isn't a knee-jerk response.

It's admitted, by the ban's own sponsors, that the ban is shallow, meaningless, and bans cosmetic features over actual lethality modifiers, and could at best affect 1% (or less) of the violent crimes committed with firearms annually. Even though bans have no causal effect on crime in the positive, only provably vulnerablizing the law-abiding.

Furthermore, I just read the legislation, and raw material surrounding the debate. I've never actually been to the NRA's webspace.

Besides, can you name one case where a legally owned machine gun was used in a crime, ever? I can. A cop murdered a drug dealer with his legally owned and registered MAC-10, while off duty. The only such offense committed since 1934.

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It's that simple.
Actually, it isn't simple at all. The whole thing is a damned mess rife with disinformation and lies. I'm not a one-issue voter either. Both candidates are quite lilly-livered on this issue, as most politicians are. One more reason for me to vote Libertarian. As if I already didn't agree with their platform totally.

Also, if you're concerned about the environment, why not go after the biggest polluter?
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