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Originally posted by Timber Loftis:
The fact someone works hard doesn't mean they didn't benefit from government handouts. The formula is SUPPOSED to be:
(minimal government assistance, as needed) + (lots of hard work) = success
Any person who succeeded due to "handouts" would likely fit this model. Condi does. One notable exception is Uncle Clarence Thomas, a lazy student who cruised by on a C average at Harvard and philandered his way through his career until landing in a cushy lifetime job, only to turn on those very programs he benefitted from. So, your recollection of his hard work is dead wrong.
So is your recollection of welfare reform. And, presidents may not have the power to override a veto, but they do strongly sway their party, and they do get to propose laws -- they are part of the congressional process. Let's not ignore reality.
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No arguement about Helping people out via gov't/private individuals etc. Eveybody needs help in some way I've yet to see a baby born that can function without help. You've yet to show me an example of sucess without hard work, I shall wait with baited breath
I'm not ignoring reality, yes the President of the USA is part of the Congressional process(civics 101 or scholastic rock if you're old enough "I'm just a bill, sitting here on Capital Hill" Harris breaks into song
) in MOST cases he is the final authority, the reality is vetos are hard to override, but hard is not imposssible. As Sherlock says "once you illeminate the impossible, what you have left NO matter how improbable(sp?) is the solution." (Paraphased by me) Now T.L. I couldn't help but notice you have not answered who propossed the act formally known as Welfare reform, Nor did you address wiether or not it was in the "Contract with America" created by that most evil of humans Newt [img]smile.gif[/img]
Edit: What about President Cliton's campaign of '96 where he said he would make changes to the welfare reform act but didn't? IIRC he even went so far as to on at least one occasion state he shouldn't have signed the welfare reform act. Now if that is true how can one even thunk about giving him crebit for the act?
"Those who remain silent are said to consent."(I forgot the Latin for the phrase, guess I better watch "Reguarding Henry" again)
[ 08-06-2004, 01:03 PM: Message edited by: John D Harris ]