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Originally posted by Timber Loftis:
Examples of Government handout folks succeeding:
Condi Rice (poor black family origin, IIRC)
Clarence Thomas (minority scholarship).
However, I don't think anyone in the party was touting government handouts. The party has moved away from handouts, and continuing to characterize it that way ignores reality (but not republican rhetoric). I note that the only significant welfare cutbacks in recent history came during the last Democratic administration, and was an issue of great concern for that president, who hammered on Congress long and hard to come up with sensible rules to force people to get off the dole.
But, spin it how you will. Your president is the one who rolled back those welfare reforms to make up for the fact he couldn't get us employed within the timeframe limitations.
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I'm glad to see you've still got that "Top" and are spining it wildly just be careful when it starts to wind down. The last Dem. administartion was dragged kicking and screaming into welfare reform. Seconds after signing the bill into law they started crying about how they needed to makes CHANGES to the LAW that was just signed. He also campaigned in 96 on how he was going to makes the changes, but alas he did not, as per the last 40+ years of the dems running the show in Congress, and anybody that has a clue KNOWS Congress has the real power No/Nada/Zero/Zip can be done with out Congress at giving approval, or at the very least not opposing.(US civic's 101 Congress can OVERRIDE a Presidental veto!!!!!! Please in all of the legal book learn'n show me where the President has a simular ability? You can't! You know you can't.
) If you have any doubts about the last dem. president campaigning to set right the welfare reforms passed by the REPUBLICAN House and Senate check out some history. T.L. you're a professional Lawyer but believe me when I tell you that you wouldn't want to defend that position against me in front of a judge, I don't know legal crap but I'd wax you, a jury maybe cause there are lots of our "peers" that can't find their ass with both hands. [img]smile.gif[/img]
Condy and Judge Thomas both succeded because they worked hard, Condy has what 3 or 4 advanced degrees? they sure as "Hale" weren't handed to her because she was poor. She earned them because she worked her rear-end off. Same for Judge Thomas he worked his rear-end off.
EDIT *a little nugget* check out the evil Contract with America that propeled the Republicans into power in the House. Why I believe you'll see something in it about Welfare reform, Who introduced the bill into Congress, was it the Last dem. administration? Why no it was the evil Republicans that had to be hammered into welfare reform.
Damn T.L. if I've tole you once I've told you a thoudsand times about pitching me these softball pitches.
At least you could try for a "bean" ball and give me the base, instead of these slow pitches and me knocking them out of the park & rounding the bases. A "bean" ball doesn't have the same effect on your ERA. as a grandslam.
[ 07-30-2004, 03:32 PM: Message edited by: John D Harris ]