[Cerek the Barbaric]

Originally posted by Oblivion437: To make things more difficult, I'm going to point something out... Moore has yet to respond to the most serious criticisms levelled at his film, Bowling for Columbine, his response is over a year old and the criticisms just a little older. In the more than a year since, he has not responded, in any way, to the real criticisms, as compiled on Hardy's page. (1) The Point (2) The Counterpoint (3) The Rebuttal At stage 3 of this argument, Moore is caught with his pants down, and it ain't a pretty sight, especially when millions of Moore cheerleaders are left to either ignore or strawman the above statements into a form acceptably supportive of Moore. The Prosecution rests.

Thanks for the links, Oblivion. It made for some interesting browsing. I have to admit that the first link does a very thorough job of picking the deceptions in BfC apart and showing exactly how and why they are deceptive. I also noted that the author provided subsequent links for every accusation or declaration he made.

When I read Moore's response, I also noticed immediately that he simply ignored most of the major points made in the first link. Now I don't know for a fact that Moore was replying specifically to that page and those accusations - but I did notice that I had no idea where his first few "defenses" came from, since the first website didn't even mention any of those claims against him.

Finally, in the 3rd link, I thought the most interesting bit was at the end, where the author claims a narcissist calls anyone who disagrees with him "evil" and when anyone criticizes them, they portray themselves as "injured martyrs". THAT is the claim *I* made about Moore waaaaaaaaay back with my very first post - that he always portrays himself as the "helpless victim". It was interesting to see that I'm not the only one who feels that way.