[Cerek the Barbaric]

Originally posted by Skunk: quote: Originally posted by Cerek the Barbaric: Yes, I realize that Skunk has a habit of bringing up Israel on a regular basis, regardless of whether the thread is actually about Israel or not.

Rubbish. It has everything to do with Israel. It is because of Israel's nuclear stockpile that every other country in the middle east is seeking weapons of mass destruction, or is expected to be seeking them.[/QUOTE]Rubbish Too. How many times has Israel actually used nuclear weapons against another country? And what countries has Israel threatened (or actually attacked) besides Palestine?

Something you seem to forget is that Israel IS being attacked on a daily basis. These other countries don't want nuclear weapons as a "safeguard" against the threat of Israel. They want them so they can use them against Israel. Israel has never threatened to attack or "wipe out" all the countries around them, but it is a well-known (and well documented) fact that all of the countries around Israel DO want to wipe them out. So it is a blantantly false and ridiculous claim for these countries to say they want nuclear weapons to protect themselves from the threat of Israel.

Originally posted by Skunk: Remember that WAR was declared on Iraq on the SUPPOSITION that it had WMD's. War was not declared on Israel despite the actual EVIDENCE that it has and maintains a nuclear stockpile.

"WAR" has not been declared on Israel??? [img]graemlins/wow.gif[/img] Gee, I bet that's a surprise to them since the citizens there cannot go to the market or get on a bus without facing the very real possibility of being blown up by a Palestinian suicide bomber. Palestinians may not have "officially" declared "War" on Israel, but they have voiced their commitment to wipe Israel out and their actions back up this commitment - so I think it is safe to say that "war" HAS been declared on Israel and is being carried out on a daily basis.

And Israel was not invaded despite the EVIDENCE that it has a nuclear stockpile because - UNLIKE IRAQ - Israel HAS NOT USED those nuclear weapons against other countries despite being under constant attack by another country.

Originally posted by Skunk: War is the LAST TOOL OF RESORT of the UN, Cerek, not the first. And the US does not provide the bulk of troops - INDIA PROVIDES THE MOST (and has done for the last TWENTY years), with Germany second and Britain third.

Really? That's news to me.

Originally posted by Skunk: And the first tool of the UN is SANCTIONS - which does not need the US military to implement. And the US is blamed for the failure of those sanctions to be implemented because it casts it veto to prevent them.

And the SANCTIONS of the U.N. have proven to be largely ineffective.

As for blaming the US for the failure of those sanctions because of their veto, I can only reiterate that the US must carry an awful lot of weight in the U.N. for thier single veto to carry so much power.