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Originally posted by Illumina Drathiran'ar:
[QB] he offers his own life and consequences, and describes what works for him and countless others. Why do you refuse to accept that? It doesn't work for you, great. But NOT EVERYONE THINKS LIKE YOU.
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If you're going to butt your head in, at least have the decency to follow the argument.
I never for once contended that Jerrs mental process was not as he says it is. He claims to have no awareness of, and thus no control over the process of choice involved in sexuality, commitment and desire. He also claims to have desperately wanted to be straight, yet was unable to achieve that end - THEREFORE IT DID NOT WORK.
What he desperately wanted did not come to pass = problem and lack of success = incorrect application of will and incomplete understanding of mental pathways.
These are HIS claims about himself, not mine. I did not contest his facts about HIMSELF.
He demanded, as proof that what I was saying about MYSELF was true, that I reverse the very process I've been speaking of. Negating the very mental control, commitment and choice awareness I've been speaking of.
Can we follow what's written next time please?
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This is downright ignorant of you.
homosexual
adj : sexually attracted to members of your own sex
Are you saying that you and you alone, a proclaimed heterosexual, understand the nature of homosexuality? Where the HELL do you come off doing that? It smacks of hubris and intolerance. While we're at it, "Well, gay men can marry women, so everything is equal. Nyah." is the same argument Prometheus used, and it's no better coming from you. As Americans, we are entitled to life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness. A gay man will not be happy married to a woman. ACCEPT THAT. The percentage of homosexuals who will stay faithful and HAPPY in a heterosexual marriage is miniscule. Deal with it.
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Downright ignorant? I have qualified my definitions. I have gone at length explaining these in my posts. It includes personal experience. This subject is also quite relevent, as I have a number of straight and gay friends who are affected by this right now. One is one the verge of becoming homosexual. I've been in commited romantic relationships with women who WERE in lesbian relationships before being with me. I've excercised choice in NOT entertaining the flattering attentions of attractive men in my life. I see so much CHOICE involved in sexuality and desire. We DO have control over what we love and hate and WHAT MAKES US HAPPY. We do not need to be helpless, slaves to whatever desires come our way.
Happiness is a perceptional choice Illumina. For you to state unequivically that a person will not be happy, completely flies in the face of the reality of perceptional choice involved in happiness.
You meet someone, you fall in love, you want to spend your life with them, but you're afraid... "what if I fall out of love"? What I am speaking of is a LACK of fear. Not "Will I love this person" but I WILL LOVE THIS PERSON!"
As for "me alone" and "hubris", what I am speaking about is common knowledge. Standard mental health. I am far from being alone in this, regardless how many people in this thread choose to disagree with me. As far as hubris goes, did I not mention part of my understanding came through sucess and FAILURE? What I learned came through painful realisation of my own weaknesses and mental deficiencies.
Read what I'm writing before butting in and insulting me next time.