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Old 06-07-2004, 12:03 PM   #127
Illumina Drathiran'ar
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As your post is too long for me to quote point by point without making my head hurt, Yorick, I've simply put your words in italics to make things easier on me.
The proof I offered was my own life and consequences. I have been describing "what worked for me" and countless others.
And he offers his own life and consequences, and describes what works for him and countless others. Why do you refuse to accept that? It doesn't work for you, great. But NOT EVERYONE THINKS LIKE YOU.

I really do not think you understand committed romantic relationships. I offered some of my personal story, and you did not offer yours. I ask again, what personal experience of being in a commited relationship have you got, seeing as you are so prepared to fly in the face of mountains of psychological/marriage counsel. Have you ever been to marriage counselling? Conflict resolution counselling? What books have you read? The Road less travelled? Where are you getting your opinions?
This isn't about the nature of personal relationships, it's about equality. But we'll get to that later.
But why would you? You're not in a relationship with a woman. I mentioned repeatedly that WOMEN GET MORE ATTRACTIVE TO ME, WHEN IN RELATIONSHIP WITH THEM. Plenty of homosexual men used to find my ex-wife attractive. Being gay doesn't preclude a man from being attracted to women, just as being hetro doesn't preclude a man from finding other men attractive. I even know gay men who've had sex with women once or twice. A man has to be attracted to a degree to have intercourse Jerr.
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Nope. Not all all. It still stands. If you are not using sexual preference as a definition, you would not need laws changed. At the moment there is equality for every human. You can marry a person of the opposite sex. It's not a heart matter, it's a physical qualifier. The minute you add in "love" and "gender attraction" you're making definitions based on sexual preference. Marriage has nothing to do with sexual preference (mental), and everything to do with physical state of being.
This is downright ignorant of you.
homosexual
adj : sexually attracted to members of your own sex

Are you saying that you and you alone, a proclaimed heterosexual, understand the nature of homosexuality? Where the HELL do you come off doing that? It smacks of hubris and intolerance. While we're at it, "Well, gay men can marry women, so everything is equal. Nyah." is the same argument Prometheus used, and it's no better coming from you. As Americans, we are entitled to life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness. A gay man will not be happy married to a woman. ACCEPT THAT. The percentage of homosexuals who will stay faithful and HAPPY in a heterosexual marriage is miniscule. Deal with it.
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