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Originally posted by Chewbacca:
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Originally posted by promethius9594:
chewbacca, a gay man has the very same right to marry as a straight man does.
if a gay man wants to marry a woman, he can do that. if a straight man wants to marry a woman, he can do that. no inequality.
if a gay man wants to marry a man, he can't do that. if a straight man wants to marry a man, he can't do that. no inequality.
i hate it when people try to gain pity points for the movement by arguing for "equality" when legalistically its already there. we're not talking about equal rights, we're talking about an expansion of rights to include a new factor... even applied society wide it is STILL an expansion of rights, not correcting an "inequality." so please, cut the BS about unfair or unequal because that arguement just doesnt float.
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Ah one of my favorite run-arounds of the issue...the ole- a gay man can marry a woman so the gays already have rights. Its poppycock.
A gay man can't marry the person they love and want to commit to for the rest of their life in a married sort of way.... ie. -another man.
A hetrosexual man can marry the person they love and want to commit to for the rest of their life in a married sort of way- ie. a woman.
So it is unfair and it is unequal..and it certainly floats. [img]smile.gif[/img] [/QUOTE]I generally agree with Whatawookie, so long as I restate the caveat that the substantive rights are important, not the nomenclature, so a "civil union" works as well as a "marriage."
Here, Promethius, let me put your argument to its logical conclusions:
"If a gay man wants to have sex with a woman, he can. But, gay men cannot have sex with each other."
That is your premise stated with "sex" instead of "marriage" -- and the Supreme Court has expressly denied that and upheld the right to gay sex, based on the Right of Privacy. Your argument is simply logically flawed as to what the law can do.
Here's another parallel:
"If a white man who likes black women wants to marry a white woman, he can. But white men cannot marry black women."
Do you see the flaw in your logic yet?