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Old 05-13-2004, 06:43 AM   #36
Memnoch
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Join Date: February 28, 2001
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Originally posted by TheCrimsomBlade:
I still think we should NUKE the intire middle east turn it to glass. WHEW rant over
Crimsom, this is the second imbecilic thing I've seen you say this week. What's wrong with you mate? You may have meant this as a joke, but that exact statement is what stereotypes the US as a bunch of misunderstanding, gun-toting yahoos to the rest of the world. I know that isn't the case but your comments don't do anything to further global friendship and understanding. In addition, they make you look stupid. Stay out of this discussion if this is all the rubbish you're going to contribute, you're very close to a suspension.

Moving on. This thread is starting to develop feelings of "self-righteousness" and "taking the moral high ground" and that's usually a sign that the thread is starting to go downhill. It's a volatile topic, but in fairness to Americans who probably feel like they are being picked on here, and to Skunk's post about balance, this abuse issue, while abhorrent and unacceptable, is not exclusively a US problem - the United Kingdom can't exactly take the moral high ground about this as they knew about this problem as well, in addition to abuses committed by British soldiers, and didn't do anything about it. Scope may be different, but at the end of the day either you abused prisoners or you didn't. For all I know Ozzie soldiers may have done it too - I know that the OZ government was apparently advised of these abuses a couple of months ago as well. Let's be fair here - our nations are all tarred with the same brush, no point pretending otherwise. Also, I'm intimate with all the Flame Warriors, fellas - and a lot of them are represented on this thread.

One final point - we're all talking opinions here. This thread is not a case of Skunk winning, or Timber winning, or Crimsom wanting to nuke the world to eliminate a problem. Everyone has their own opinion. Example: what do you guys see below?





Some people see one thing, some people see another. Doesn't mean one is right over the other. Chill out, fellas, and don't take yourselves too seriously. [img]smile.gif[/img]

[ 05-14-2004, 09:55 AM: Message edited by: Memnoch ]
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