[Cerek the Barbaric]

Originally posted by Chewbacca: I am unsure what makes you think I agree with BFC's "overall message" and 'central truth. For one thing I am unclear what BFC's "overall message" or "central truth" actually are and I have actually seen the film. Another thing is this accusation that I have "overlooked" falsehood out of some sort of sympathy with M. Moore. My objection is that Moore's alleged 'falsehoods' are unproven, though I have seen some heavily biased, hyperbole filled attempts. Just because folks repeat the opinion "Moore is a Liar" doesn't make it true or a fact. It is lack of credible, objective, critically skeptical, evidence- not sympathy- that has formed my opinion of the film.

Well, there has been plenty of evidence provided that Moore used editing techniques to create misleading scenes in the movie. You don't feel bothered or misled by these "creative editing" techniques (which is basically what I said in my previous response). That's fine. I don't feel "misled" when I watch Bill O'Reilly either - but at least I do recognize the spin he is putting on his stories.

As for the accusation that "Moore is a Liar" is nothing more than opinion...that's just being blind to the facts. Forget Bfc. Forget F 9/11. I have repeatedly pointed out where Moore told an outright LIE in his interview regarding the "controversy" of Disney refusing to distribute the film. Moore claims he thought everything was "OK" and he had no idea Disney didn't want to distribute the film. That's just utter bullshit because Moore's agent was told a YEAR in advance that Disney WOULD NOT distribute the film under any circumstances. Yes, Miramax chose to fund the film anyway - despite Eisner's explicit directive that they NOT fund it. And Miramax exec's said they would try to change Eisner's mind and "hoped" they could reach an agreement. But Moore doesn't mention ANY of that. In the interview, he presents it as if he had NO IDEA there was ANY controversy about his film whatsoever. That is fact, not opinion. I provided a link to the interview and cut-n-pasted the relevant statements in my response. You keep asking for "unbiased" sources that Moore lies. Well I've used his own words...that's about as "unbiased" as you can get. The documentation and the spin Moore put on this upcoming film is right there for you to see in black and white (or whatever font color you choose to use). You told me I should put my dislike for Moore aside and view BfC on my own. I'm asking you to do the same thing. Put your agreement with Moore aside and look at the interview and the words he uses, then contrast that with the fact that he knew well in advance this was going to happen.