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Originally posted by Oblivion437:
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Originally posted by Yorick:
Oblivion. Sounds like sour grapes to me. If you won't visit Australia to see how the land lies, the least you can do is come down to New York City and see why the gun laws are in place.
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Can you hope to get around the statistical phenomena of gun crimes, homicides and violent crime going up after gun control was enacted?
The guns were already on the streets, and they continue to be as such today. All the gun control laws can possibly achieve is to disarm law abiding citizens. Criminals still have guns... Check for the last time a legal CHL holder was convicted of a crime involving their concealed weapon...
[/QUOTE]You need to visit the place. So that's two on your list. Australia and New York. Surely you can come and visit New York. It's only a few hours away right? Then you could see for yourself how ineffective those gun laws are.