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Old 06-15-2004, 11:33 PM   #269
John D Harris
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Join Date: March 27, 2001
Location: Northport,Alabama, USA
Age: 63
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Originally posted by Davros:
LOL - a point of dissent here JD - a votin elector dude thingy has the rights to say who get into the position that makes the decisions round abouts anyplace.

Now while I agree about votin citizens havin the rights to vote in a citizen who will vote what they wants into law - votin rights is clearly NOT what Yorrrick's post (what you quoted) is about. He expressed 2 points that you seem to think are addressed by the concern that he should go get on the electoral roll. The points he expressed were :

1)The laws of NYC are more my business than yours. By your argument, on the basis of elecitve power then neither Yorrrrrrick or the person he made that point to have elective powers in NYC - that makes it the business of neither. But on the "I live locally so local affairs and laws are my concern" front, Yorick clearly has more business being concerned over what is in place and what he must follow, and what he can expect other people to be following that does his earstwhile debator. Hence the statement remains a truism irrespective of electoral rolls.

2)The other point he makes is that he is perfectly entitled to voice his support for gun controls in the city he lives in. Now call me obtuse it you like, but I don't see how bein an elector denies one the right to agree with or support a position.

It is a bit glib to dismiss someones position on the issue (and in this case dismiss is a bit strong, so I will settle for "marginalise") simply because they are not on an electoral roll. You may not be trying to judge his position as you say, but being on an electoral roll (or in this case not) should not be seen as a means of making his points irrelevant.
I make no statement to rightness or wrongness of the way things are just that they ARE. It is not the busines of either if they are not voters in NY, I live and vote in Alabama and could careless what the Voters of NY do on anything. They don't effect me in the slightest, sure as feeces stinks it won't be a NY peace officer that knocks on my door.

I didn't say the laws of NY have no effect on Yorick in fact I stated the exact opposite when I used the phrase "You takes what you gets" Please show me what word or combination of words I wrote that equal Yorick doesn't have the right to voice his support or nonsupport for anything? But voicing and doing are not the same thing. We got some sayings here TALK is CHEAP and Actions speak louder then words, in other words yapp all'ya want it don't matter until you pull the lever, which is an action not a talk.
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