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Sparhawk · 05-12-2004, 02:48 AM

To the dutch-men in here...

I think your situation in Holland is worse than in the rest of EU...since there is a LOT of imigrants in holland to start with.
I remember the news telling about Piet Van sumthin ( that plitician that was killed )and they always marked him as a fanatic and a rascist...for some weird reason, I just keep thinking that he might have had the best grap on realities in the dutch political system thus far.

Anyway...in Denmark there is the usual hype about polish youngsters stealing work from danish people...and I suppose that the risk is serious...but to be frank...I am not going into the field and harvesting carrots and cucumbers so if the farmer wants to hire cheap polish labour for that he has my blessing....it might even make him competative against the new farms from the east.
The highly educated people ( of whom I am not one ) will probally have little to fear, since there have been a flux between the countries on these positions in advance.

What we have to think about is that this migration-period we are living in is fairly new and that the world is an ever-changing place...surely it is happening a LOT faster today with airplanes, boats and cars...what I am getting at is that just 50 years ago this migration was not happening...with the sole exception of USA...everyone wanted to go there and did so!

My point being...in the future...with the mix and flux of nationalities we might indeed see EU turn into the superpower that equals USA.
I think that India and China will follow closely after, China is a place of opportunities at the moment and India is in the proces of turning into a "wealthy" country.

What we really need to look out for, is the constant threat of the smaller states around the world...the threat-assesment of the world has changed over the last two decades.
From having two superpowers fighting in the shadows to having smaller threats fighting in the open with the superpowers...i.e. Tjetinia and Iraq gives us all a certain amount of insecurity...EU does not have these issues at the current moment...of course we have some involvement in Iraq...but certanly not on an EU-plane of decision.

*pheeeeow* a lot of cheap words from the dane

05-12-2004, 02:48 AM	#20
Sparhawk Quintesson Join Date: June 2, 2001 Location: In the oldest monarchy - Denmark Age: 47 Posts: 1,071	To the dutch-men in here... I think your situation in Holland is worse than in the rest of EU...since there is a LOT of imigrants in holland to start with. I remember the news telling about Piet Van sumthin ( that plitician that was killed )and they always marked him as a fanatic and a rascist...for some weird reason, I just keep thinking that he might have had the best grap on realities in the dutch political system thus far. Anyway...in Denmark there is the usual hype about polish youngsters stealing work from danish people...and I suppose that the risk is serious...but to be frank...I am not going into the field and harvesting carrots and cucumbers so if the farmer wants to hire cheap polish labour for that he has my blessing....it might even make him competative against the new farms from the east. The highly educated people ( of whom I am not one ) will probally have little to fear, since there have been a flux between the countries on these positions in advance. What we have to think about is that this migration-period we are living in is fairly new and that the world is an ever-changing place...surely it is happening a LOT faster today with airplanes, boats and cars...what I am getting at is that just 50 years ago this migration was not happening...with the sole exception of USA...everyone wanted to go there and did so! My point being...in the future...with the mix and flux of nationalities we might indeed see EU turn into the superpower that equals USA. I think that India and China will follow closely after, China is a place of opportunities at the moment and India is in the proces of turning into a "wealthy" country. What we really need to look out for, is the constant threat of the smaller states around the world...the threat-assesment of the world has changed over the last two decades. From having two superpowers fighting in the shadows to having smaller threats fighting in the open with the superpowers...i.e. Tjetinia and Iraq gives us all a certain amount of insecurity...EU does not have these issues at the current moment...of course we have some involvement in Iraq...but certanly not on an EU-plane of decision. pheeeeow a lot of cheap words from the dane __________________ "Between the years when the oceans drank Atlantis and the rise of the sons of Arius. There was an age undreamed of, when shining kingdoms lay spread across the world. Hither came Conan, the cimmarian, sword in hand. It is I, his chronicler who knows well his saga. Now let me tell you of the days of high adventure!" "Unleash the Casey!" "Make no mistake, should you choose to test my resolve in this matter, you will be looking at an outcome that will have a finality, that is beyound your comprehension. And you will not counting the days or the months or the years, but milleniums in a place with no doors!"