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Old 04-30-2004, 09:02 PM   #50
Yorick
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Originally posted by Illumina Drathiran'ar:
The question of the soul is central to where life starts. How could life start without a soul, without essence to guide the physical form?
And what happens when a woman miscarries? And what happens to the aborted fetuses? Where do they go? Do they come back? I can't hold a meaningful discussion if you drown out my questions with preaching.
For the last time... give it a rest Illumina! It's an entirely different discussion!!

Before you answer when the souls enters a body, or is created, or grown, you have to first answer the question "DO HUMANS HAVE SOULS?" As there is a ban on religious discussion we cannot go there. However, the question of the soul has different answers depending on your faith. A Mormon might tell you, the soul existed before conception and was placed in at that moment. A pantheist may tell you all is part of the one soul, so that the "soul" was always in the child and mother at the same time. When I believe the soul enters the body is completely irrelevent.

As I have said, humanists who do not believe in souls, have ideas about when life starts. I already gave you the example of monkeys, fish or any other lifeform. I beieve humans have souls, but not other animals. However, life starts, for all mammals - whether soulless, or souled, at when the egg is fertilised. That is indisputable. After the egg is fertilised, the being begins developing. It is the initiation of human life.

Get off the soul bandwagon until you can empirically prove to me humans have souls.
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