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Old 04-29-2004, 04:49 PM   #20
Yorick
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Join Date: January 7, 2001
Location: Breukelen (over the river from New Amsterdam)
Age: 53
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Originally posted by Illumina Drathiran'ar:
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Originally posted by Timber Loftis:
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Which is worse, do you suppose? Having an abortion or abandoning a child in a garbage can?
An interesting question, actually. I'd say an abortion is better because the child has no consciousness yet (presumably). Nevertheless, I don't see that this rebuts Yorick's example -- who didn't leave the child in a garbage can. [/QUOTE]He painted a rosy example of a community willing to raise a child. I'm saying that, sadly, this isn't always the case. [/QUOTE]And why not? These are choice humans are in control of. What kind of society puts women in a situation where they feel they have to destroy life? Where is the community? the breakdown of the "village" and the extended family, and now the nuclear family is at the heart of this issue. The breakdown of COMMUNITY directly leads to the murders of unborn children. Horrific in the extreme.

As per Timbers example, kids have been left on church doorsteps for centuries. Moses was left in a little boat in the swamp. Taliesin the Bard was abandoned. It is better to be left in a garbage can or aborted? Garbage can, no contest. While there is life there is hope.

And that is the whole point. In putting women in a situation where they believe they are "choosing" what's best for their life, we not only destroy the mental health of these women, or damage their ability to bear children in future, but most importantly, WE DESTROY HUMAN LIFE. How is it that "choice" overrides life? YES children are inconvenient. I was an "accident" that caused my parents problems as they adjusted to an inexpected pregnancy. So what. So many humans are. LIFE is unexpected. My point about the 12 year old mother was that is SEEMINGLY bad - just because it is unexpected and different to what you planned - is not necessarily BAD. Women when they abort are throwing away countless blessings that arise from taking lifes difficulties on the chin and adjusting. Human adaptability is part of what makes us so dominant over the planet. It's why we survive. No the "rosy picture" doesn't always happen, but it CAN if people CHOOSE it. I have a schoolfriend who was raped and had the child as well. That's two rapes that resulted in two births, and two beautiful humans now on the planet.
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