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Originally posted by Illumina Drathiran'ar:
Either inform me when men can get pregnant, or maybe we should have more women have a say in laws regarding abortion.
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Silly comment.
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I'm not a fan of partial-birth abortion either, not by a long shot... Usually if there's a problem of some kind, a woman should abort earlier in the pregnancy.
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Just to note -- I think the new partial birth ban includes an escape hatch for women whose health is at serious risk if they give birth.
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And I really hate it when pro-lifers discuss abortion because religion is brought into the issue too often for my liking. When does the soul...
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Like it or not, this is central to the whole debate. And, it is really why the issue cannot be resolved between some people. If I have no right to tell you that you cannot be Christian, I likewise have no right to tell you when the soul enters the fetus.
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You can't make laws regarding something that needs to be taken on a case-by-case basis.
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Sure you can -- we do all the time. In fact, every criminal law follows this format: [Guilt = act + guilty mind - mitigating circumstances]
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And I'm not even going to mention the fact that pro-lifers are more prone to violence anger, and gory images during protests or outside clinics.
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I guess this is the overall perception. I'm a pro-choicer though (actually, I prefer "pro death"), and I can get pretty darned violent when I want.
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Finally, I would like to propose two scenarios. Woman A gets pregnant at age 18, accidentally, but her religion forbids abortion. She drops out of school and raises a child whom she resents. Woman B gets pregnant at age 18, but realizes that she is in no position to raise a child. She aborts it and waits until she's thirty to raise a child in a loving environment.
Which child is better off?
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Obviously Child B is better off. However, what you are missing is the Child A is better off in scenario A than in scenario B -- Because in scenario B, Child A is DEAD.