[Black Baron]

Very well i will dig it out, if you persist skunk.
KGB is not GRU. GRU was and is ultra secret organization. Read book by victor suvorov "akvarium", for detailed info.

Whackmiester-Since that it is obvious that you are the chief "cloack and dagger" man, go and teach mossad how to work. [img]tongue.gif[/img]


"Mossad came to MY HOME TOWN and engages in brutal murders without reference to my goverment or respecting the laws of MY COUNTRY. And you wonder why I am bothered by a state that sponsors terrorism in this manner and tramples over the laws of MY COUNTRY?
And no, MOSSAD did not execute the murders of the Munich massacre because no-one ever stood trial for the crime - they murdered innocent men, because none of them had been convicted of the crime or even been indited - including that norwegian waiter who was gunned down in front of his pregnant wife!"

Sometimes no conviction is nessesary. Ben Laden, Rantisi, and all of their ilk were not found guilty before any court. Yet we hunt and kill them.

About disregard of the laws- what had mossad to do? Ask your country to give them away? Bureaucracy will take its toll and, yes, respect for human rights.
Then some of them will escape, and you can search for them another year or two. Your secret service also disregards our laws by spying on us (every one does so). We merely broke more laws. The principle still remains.

If the waiter was innocent-it was a mistake. Stuff happens, and sometimes it is not good.
If it was done intentionally and every time, then, yes, it will be terrorism. Again, you take 1 case and judge according to it a whole organization.

About weapon supplying. It is what it is. I sell weapons and i do not care what they will be used for. It is ugly, illegal, nasty etc. It is not terrorism. Remember all of these organizations are knee deep in ****. They have to do it sometimes in order to achieve their goals. To claim that everyone should have white and clean hands is absurd.