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Old 04-01-2004, 10:01 AM   #23
Timber Loftis
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Join Date: July 11, 2002
Location: Chicago, IL
Posts: 11,916
Well, I don't know how to respond. All of your comments have affected me. Most of the time, I am all about trying to "step into the shoes" of the other mindset. Maybe I just think that since it seems to me skunk spends most all of his time understanding and explaining the mindset of the jihadist or Muslim, I just wanted to try to force him out of it or criticize him for not turning the thing over to look at the other side.

Hierophant, I don't have an "illusory sense of empowerment." I don't have a sense of empowerment, so it can't be illusory. I know empowered people -- they don't bother trying to discuss politics on the net because they don't have anything much to rant about. It seems your main attack against me is that I read the news and come here to argue/learn about it. Do any of us here have any other access to information than that? Isn't that what we all do here?

Anyway, I want to affirm that I stand by my initial statements of barbarism. That's what this act was. Go on NY Times and see the photos -- especially the one where they tied a rock to a hunk of one of the victims (arm I think) and tossed it over a telephone line, so it could hang in the air. Temporary insanity, offered up by Skunk, is the only possible explanation I've heard of this, and let me reminds us all that when any defendant starts to make this argument, well all begin to roll our eyes. Applying "temporary insanity" to a whole population is even more of a stretch.

If we call these people rebels, i.e. those fighting a force occupying their country, then let us look back through history to see how other rebellious people have behaved. And, now that I think about it, maybe there's something to be learned there. I'm not familiar enough with this issue as it relates to our own revolution, the French revolution, etc. But, there probably were acts of torture, mutilation, and other such barbarisms. I don't know, but I guess I'll look into it.
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