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Old 03-31-2004, 01:13 AM   #30
Yorick
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Join Date: January 7, 2001
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Well, just remember freedom is a two edged sword. Pursuing "freedom" as an idealism is absurd because one persons freedom can directly negate anothers freedom. Like anything, BALANCE within the subjective values of freedom is important.

We see a common argument used defending freedom regarding:
Gun laws
Abortion
Smoking in Bars
Religion

I found the discussion in court concerning the pledge to be a case in point. If there is seperation of church and state, why should the state impose Atheism as it's national religion? The father stated the pledge meant his daughter was saying her fathers religion was wrong - his words, were his atheism was his religion.

Now, the pledge doesn't declare what God is. An atheist could quite happily be deciding that God is merely a concept or idea, while declaring all America is united under that concept. Meanwhile the Hindu is perceiving God to be everything, and that America is united under than "everything", while the Christian or Jew, is thinking of Yhwh when they state it.

So.. as I see it, the freedom exists. However, removal of it, is the state imposing atheism, removing freedom of religion.

Just as giving women freedom to kill thei unborn children, removes the child the freedom to exist.

Just as giving people the freedom to own a gun impacts on their freedom from being shot.

Freedom.

Give an argricultural society freedom to plant crops and it takes away from the nomadic society the freedom to graze herds, or gather berries.

The British Empire vs Australian Koori people being a prime case in point. One nations freedom to "colonise" was anothers decimation.

The funny thing is, in life you can gain freedom through restriction. Even better if it is self restriction.

With music, the simpler and more predictable the chord progression (say Blues for example) the more melodic freedom one has. Whereas, the more chordal variety in a song, key changes etc, the less melodic freedom a player has.

Interesting little law of life there.

If I restrict my life in certain areas, I gain freedoms in others.
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