[Skunk]

Originally posted by Timber Loftis: Oh, and Skunk, I personally think it was shitty of you to lump OBL, Blair, and Bush into one "lawless" basket yet again. For one, no one can prove Bush and Blair broke any laws. You can allege this, assert that, and wave your liberal hands about in the air yelling "the sky is falling," but there CERTAINLY is reasonable doubt as to any illegality. I've explained before how the law itself was quite legal, in fact no one has seriously asserted it wasn't in any real way (i.e. filing a case with the UN), so I shan't do it again. I just note that it saddens me that every time I try to entertain a serious discussion with you, you turn into a shit. Your continued baseless allegations are called slander and libel.

My mistake in not making myself clear.
I actually stated:
"Those who abandon the law and use violence rather than the courts and democratic systems to get their way belong in a cell - as far removed from society as possible."

When I actually meant:
"Those who abandon the law and/or use violence rather than the courts and democratic systems to get their way belong in a cell - as far removed from society as possible."

You know as well as I do that the UN was set to vote on whether military action was to be taken against Iraq and, when it looked like the US/UK were going to lose the vote, they abandoned the democratic process and declared a war which cost thousands of innocent lives.

And you know as well as I do that that any case filed against the US would have to pass through the security council - which the US sits on and can veto. No country would be stupid enough to waste their time filing a resolution against a state that could veto the resolution. It's the only organisation in the world where a judge is allowed to decide the verdict on an alleged 'crime' that he is accused of. No prizes for guessing which way he would vote.

I actually don't know if they broke any laws - professional opinion seems equally divided on the issue - but they DID abandon the democratic process and they DID wage war before all alternatives had been explored. And that is not slander because it is verifiable FACT.

And because thousands of lives were lost as a result (and people are still dying in the ongoing conflict that they started), that DOES make them as bad as any terrorist.

[ 03-17-2004, 10:41 AM: Message edited by: Skunk ]