[Cerek the Barbaric]

Originally posted by Donut: quote: Originally posted by John D Harris: You better ask yourself why this woman is to be put down for deciding what is exceptable and will be allowed when the daughter is hers.

That isn't the point JD. She is quite within her rights to make that decision.

But given the level of intimacy that she must have had with her husband at some time to produce a daughter, why on earth should a few pictures embarass her with her husband!? [/QUOTE]The embarassment comes from the fact that her daughter saw that same brochure, Donut. Speaking as a parent myself, I can certainly say that many things that I normally wouldn't even pay attention to become very embarassing if my 7yr old or 5yr old happens to see them too.

For example, I saw the spoof movie of "The Fugitive" the other day. It had the main character from the Airplane and Naked Gun movies (Leslie Nelson??). Both of my boys were in the room too. They thought the movie was very funny - especially the scene where the train actually CHASES Nelson through the woods). Later, though, there was a scene where he returns to his house (the scene of the crime) and "relives" his encounter with the real criminal. He walks into the house and is attacked by this guy. They grapple and fall to the floor wrestling each other. During this series of scenes, the two men end up in various "sexual positions". Of course it is supposed to be unintentional on thier part but is intentional on the directors part in order to get a laugh from the audience. That is fine when the movie is in the theater where 5 and 7 year olds would not have a chance to see it, but it definitely embarassed (and upset) me that they could see something like that just by clicking the remote. And the movie was NOT on a premium channel. It was on our basic cable. The fact that neither of my boys really understood the significance of the different "positions" did nothing to lessen my embarassment - and I immediately changed channels to something else.

By the same token, I can certainly understand why the woman in Texas would be upset and embarassed that her daughter had been given a brochure containing illustrations of sexual behavior. If my son were to recieve a similar brochure from the Boy Scouts, you can be sure the organization would find out just how "barbaric" this daddy can be when his children are given sexually explicit material without his knowledge.

As for those that were derisively INtolerant of the woman's embarassment and felt it was necessary to make unfounded insults regarding her sexual relationship with her husband - let me debunk your arguments for you.

I am a conservative Christian that happens to fully enjoy the sex life I have with my wife. Yet I would be JUST as embarassed as this woman if such a brochure was given to one of my boys. Even though my 7yr old is very mature for his age (in certain areas), he is NOT ready to be presented with such material. However, just because I am embarassed for sexual material to be shown to my son without my knowledge does NOT mean I am embarassed by sex in general NOR does it mean I am afraid to talk to my children about it. I have 3 boys, so I will be having 3 "talks" as they grow old enough. Actually, I expect to have many more talks than that, but I WILL be the one to sit down and explain intercourse and conception to them. When they start dating, I will be the one to explain the dangers of STD's, unexpected pregnancies, and the risk thier girlfriends' gun-toting father to them.

The fact that I don't want my 7yr old seeing pictures of a boy masturbating does NOT mean I am afraid to approach the subject myself when I feel the time is right or necessary.