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Originally posted by Gab:
Oblivion, you can go on with this BS about gun control, but you're wrong. It hardly makes any difference having a gun in your house. Burglars usually don't break into a house when there's people home. If they do, it's almost always late at night when everyone's asleep. You wouldn't likely get to your gun on time nor would the thief let you. If you did, you'd risk getting killed in a gun fight. The best answer would be to just simply call the police.
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First, how am I bullshitting? Just saying I'm wrong doesn't MAKE me wrong. Second, who the hell sleeps through a break-in? Is everyone in Canada a Narcoleptic or something? Also, the thief doesn't even know if I have a firearm in the home, nor could he likely prevent me from getting it. If he knew I did, chances are he'd rob a different house. I'd keep the pistol on the night stand, next to the head-ache medicines and whatever book I'm reading, but it'd be in a lockbox. I'd rather risk getting killed in a gunfight than wait for 30 minutes for the police to get to my home. By that time the burglar could have completely cleaned out the lower floors of my house, and left me damn near penniless. Not to mention, if in fact he is carrying a firearm, he could have my family dead in under a minute flat. I'd rather kill him. My family means more to me than he does, and he's a direct threat. Burglars are not superhuman monsters with omniscient vision into your home, they're not that smart either, that's why they're home-burglars. Smart criminals are already into slightly more white-collar things, like 'Give-up' hijackings, credit card schemes, and car theft.
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I'll also mention there's been dozens deaths in California from firearms because of roadside rage and fights with family members. With so many homocides from firearms in America each year, it makes sense to have gun control.
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Two words about the roadside rage and family fighting: Prove it! If my civilized instinct has broken down so much that I can shoot someone, I can most certainly stab them or start hitting them as well. Should we ban closing of hands and knives to get rid of that trouble as well?
And, at 11000 (a number Michael Moore had to use redundant factors to get, I might add) assuming they're all really homicides (which they're not, some of them are police killings, and a very large number are self-defense killings, but the data from that particular year was never broken down, especially by anti-gun groups) dead from firearm use/misuse every year, that's 1 per 20000... Everyone dies, but in the United States, one in every 20000 meets their end by way of the gun. That's 0.005% of all deaths. You should see the stabbing and blunt instrument murder numbers in any city, they are one reason some use the violent culture and history argument, and they seem highest in ethnically diverse areas (in short, Heston was right) where racial conflict is high.
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[b]Regarding Canada, I can asure you that crime with firearms hasn't increased (might have with poverty, though) and we've had gun control laws there since the 60s. There's been only a few murders in Canada each year from guns. [/QB]
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Citing raw numbers is misleading, and very significant in propaganda tactics. A lot more people live in the US, and there are more criminals here too (more stuff is illegal, for starters) in some areas. Assure all you like, but the numbers don't agree. Like I said, there once was a time where theory picked a fight with reality, and reality threw theory into the dirt, and proceeded to give it a sound beating...