[Night Stalker]

That ONE STATE as you put it absolutely has the right to determine it's fate. This nation is a federation, a collection of 50 separate entities. Does Georgia have to recognize VT Civil Unions? No. That's the beauty of it. The Federal Government is ONLY supposed to regulate the interaction BETWEEN the States and act as a single unified front to externalities. The rest, by the Constitution is the realm of the States - States Rights. Unfortunatly, this country has forgotten that small minor fact and keeps giving more and more power to the Fed and it keeps getting bigger, and bigger, and more costly.

And, democratically determined or not it IS Tyrranny of the Masses. Explain to me how "Gay Marriage" is different from "Inter-racial Marriage" with out going into how who shtups whom and with what equipment. Inter-racial marriage was once illegal in this country as well. And the same tired arguements against were used then as they are now. Explain how it is not discrimination. Like I said, supplant Gay Marriage with Inter-racial Marriage and the arguements fall apart. If the same arguement fails under one set of conditions vs another set of similar conditions - its discrimination. Or would you like to support the notion that Coloreds shouldn't marry because they are morally reprehensible or genetically inferior and they deffinately shouldn't be allowed to marry White people? It has been tried before.

But bigotry and discrimination are not nice words so to delude ourselves, we need to demonize "those people" to make ourselves comfortable with our bigotry.

And again, you are confusing the actions of the Judge striking a law down based on constitutionality with the action of the Mayor of SF. That mayor was overriding the will of the people of CA. In MA, the Judge merely said that the law, as written was against the State's Constitution. He is not overriding the will of hte people, only making the Legislature rewrite the law so that it is Constitutional. The only catch is, any law thay they write that is discriminatory will be against the Constitution and the only way for THAT State (MS only, not the rest of the country) to get around the problem is to either allow gay marriage (or civil union, or how ever way you want to name "potatoe") or go ahead and out law marriage. [img]tongue.gif[/img]

Hmmmm! I smell the Winds of Change a blowing! I wonder where they will take us?

[ 02-27-2004, 10:06 PM: Message edited by: Night Stalker ]