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Originally posted by Illumina Drathiran'ar:
[QB] I'm stating that I don't know why people are gay, but I know it isn't a choice.
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You just contradicted yourself. You don't know. You don't know it isn't a choice. You have presented no studies, no personal experience, nothing that indicates you KNOW at all. I on the other hand have offered my own experience in choosing hetrosexuality - something I keep choosing - the experiences of the ex-lesbians I had relationships with, and presented a study. I know why I am hetrosexual, and it is by choice. I wasn't born with these desires, they were things I allowed and chose to develop, entertain and act on.
You take away too much control from yourself. You have more power over yourself than you realise, yet if you hold your current ethos, will never achieve the mind over matter sucess necessary for certain sucesses.
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You can't compare the choice to have an affair or not with homosexuality. It doesn't work that way. If a homosexual person were to repress their desires they'd be very unhappy indeed, perhaps suicidal.
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You really think there is a difference? So a married man falls in love with his secretary. For his marriage to survive, he must surpress his desire for that woman. Yes, he too could become suicidal if he fails to manage his brain and control his subconscious. You present weakness. You present humans as though they are controlled by whims, fancies and dreams. I present humans as beings who consciously move toward that which they aim for. Controlling subconscious, desire, love, fear and emotions. You limit the human mind. I show you potential.
To perform, I must control my urges not to run off stage, I must control my fear. I must control ego so it doesn't get hubrisly huge, I control the desire not to sleep with any shit-hot fan that shows interest, if my life is to not go down the toilet. I must supress urges to take drugs to keep me awake, or wake me up after 2 hours sleep, or calm my nerves. I must supress the desire to punch a music industry person that steals money from me.
If I were to follow your advice - your reality - my life would be an impotent, ineffective, tide-following mess.
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No, it doesn't. Many homosexuals, when coerced (perhaps through 'therapy' or 'religion' or 'being saved') into having sex with someone of the opposite gender, will fantasize about their gender of preference, or perhaps just do it and get it over with.
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Show me the studies that show that assertion to be true or retract it as personal invention.
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Sleeping with the opposite sex doesn't make you heterosexual any more than 'experimenting' with the same sex makes you homosexual.
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If you have sex with a man you are homosexual. If you have sex with a woman you are hetrosexual. If you have no sex, you are celibate. If you have sex with a child you are a paedophile. If you are married and sleep with someone else you are an adulterer.
Desire is nothing. Action is everything. Just as it is pointless having fantasies about being celibate, unless you are not having sex, you are not celibate. A person may have homosexual desires, but until they act on those, they are not homosexual.