[Ronn_Bman]

Ah Pickachu, but you assume I watch Fox. I don't(unless it is on at the gym and I can't change the channel). Again, I'll point out that you are pretty blasé about the fact that the mainstream media leans. You seem to find that acceptable, but the only logical reason for that would be that you agree.

Rokenn, my only question about the video clip is whether that was during a newscast or a commentary show. I'm not familiar with the host, but I do know that on MSNBC left-winger Bill Press hits the right with everything possible while his partner, right-winger Pat Buchanan, does the exact same to the left. The reason I like Buchanan and Press is because it's more balanced when you hear from both sides, but even if it was just the left or just the right represented that show is quite a bit different than a newscast.

Please understand I'm not blind to what this guy was doing to Clark, and I think Clark handled the incident perfectly. The guy was making an issue of a non-issue. Of course he was, but it happens everyday. I don't accept it on Fox anymore than I can accept it everywhere else. I can see that bias even though I'm on the right. Maybe it's because I'm not that far right that I can see it.

What I see as disingenuous is when those on the left can't or won't see something that leans to the left or worse try to excuse it. Does it really make a difference if it's more subtle? Is it really ok to lean on a report as long as you are subtle? I think not. I'd rather see the cartoonish Fox leanings and accept them for what they are, than try to justify the fact that the mainstream leans a bit but it's only an acceptable leaning. Acceptable for whom?