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Old 11-18-2003, 06:20 PM   #8
LordKathen
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Originally posted by Maelakin:

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I would agree with you IF he had not had the medication prescribed to him by a doctor. Once prescribed, if addiction occurs is it really the fault of the patient, or should we be pointing the finger at the doctor who obviously made an errant decision.

Are you sure the doctor made an errant decision? Why not point the finger at the company who makes the drug?
He was prescribed the drug, granted, but the prescription ran out and he should have know to seek the advice of his doctor when he was experiancing addictive symptoms. I have had a Nuerologist in the past that was quick to over medicate, therefore I switched doctors.


Oxycontin is a very good example. Of all the painkillers, Oxycontin is one of the most addictive. Doctors know and understand this, yet they continue to prescribe it to people without a second thought. Most people trust their doctors enough to take the medications they prescribe. I don’t believe anyone knows of every side effect of every medication they have taken before. We have a level of trust we put into our health care professionals.

Sure there is a level of trust, but your doctor works for you, and you have the power to direct the doctor and tell how you feel. Putting your vody or mind in their hands completely is wrong from the get go. There are gullable people out there who do this, but I dont think the power hungry Rush is that stupid. Going by his stand on issues regarding these that is.

As for the acts committed while actually addicted, have you ever been addicted to a drug such as this? You cannot possibly understand what it is like to be addicted to something like Oxycontin unless you have actually gone through it. (For reference, I had an extremely bad addiction to an illegal drug. I have since stopped taking the drug and have been clean for over 5 years, however, I can honestly say I am still an addict and will be for the rest of my life. Every day is a personal struggle, so those who say they can understand without experiencing the actual addiction I call ignorant.) You are not in control of yourself. The drug completely takes over your life and controls every action you take. Most people understand that they need to get off the drugs, but they cannot do it. More often than not it isn’t even possible to recover with professional help.

Well yes actually I have experianced a severe addiction to Methaphetimine. Worse than Oxycontin. And obviously broke the law to be on the drug. I over came it on my own and have been clean for 8 years. I watched my best friend and his brother 6 months later both die from Heroin. So yes I know how hard it is. And I also know that it is very individual as to the addiction, the drug, the means, and the end. The only reason I say my opinion of Rush like I hold, is the proclomations he has made about the generalisation of all drugs and all people using them. All I am saying is that he learns from the mistakes he made and acknowledges those wrong proclomations, publicaly.

The biggest attributing factor to continued addiction is the blame you place on yourself. You don’t want others to know so you try and hide your addiction. You are embarrassed of your actions, but it is hard to admit to others that you have allowed yourself to become so dependant upon a substance. You end up unable to face your addiction because you are unable to face other people.

Well, this may be true for some people, like ones in the public eye. But, most the drug addicts I knew and know, tell others with near pride about how high they are or how good they feel. I dont quite agree that it is the biggest contributing factor. Maybe for some, but certainly not all. I think that is what the programs tell you to make you feel better about yourself. Well, I think personaly that is the first thing you need to do, is admit that it is your problem and you are the only one that can truly change the problem. Rush has done that. Good for him. All I said, once again, is he needs to opologise to his audience for the lies he has told in the past.


Because of my past, I feel sorry for every person who faces an addiction because of the ineptitude of his or her doctors. Maybe this doesn’t apply to Rush and maybe it does. However, either way we don’t know and just because he may have stated things in the past he shouldn’t have, I don’t believe you should judge him now after his ordeal. In my mind, you would be worse than him if you did. He faced an addiction and is attempting to overcome that addiction.

Well, I already stated my rebutle on the doctor issue. How many times have you heard the term "get a second opinion"? Enough said.
It will be interesting to see if he can come to terms, not only with the addiction to Oxycontin, bit to his radical false judgments about society as a whole. If he does, then kudos, if not, I wont be surprised.


If in the future he makes statements about those who are addicted to various drugs in a derogatory manner, by all means let him have it. If he makes statements about those of us who willingly made the decision to take illegal drugs, we deserve it. When you illegally acquire drugs and put them in your body you accept the addiction as a possibility. That is not always the case for prescribed medications. Judge those who begin their addiction criminally; don’t judge those committing criminal acts because of an addiction. [/QB][/QUOTE]

Sorry, but I dont think anyone should make the statements in the first place. He is an ignorant tyrant, and this all just to ironic, yet typical.
As far as your last statement, you should not judge anyone ever. I did not judge him, I made statements about what he he has said, and is admiting to. Lets just wait and see where it goes, aye?


[ 11-18-2003, 06:39 PM: Message edited by: LordKathen ]
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